I would recommend a JB butterfly case. But they might not meet the budget. Pagulayan has one as well.

Rusty in Montana said:

Well come on out to the wilds of the middle of Montana and show me where these pool halls are that aren't 100 + miles away in just one direction ha ha when George Frank had the Corner Pocket Billards going strong many years ago yes pool halls were a bit more common until a host of things happened and they all faded into the sunset .

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I've had a couple of poolrooms close on me. It's terrible. It's like a kid losing their playground. Inconsolable when it happens.

Many an estate did not have records which would have cleared up financial situations. Siblings often face the same struggles with their parents estate. Who gets what and mom and dad intended me to get the “China.” Ok now what? Joe was a good guy but he didn’t hand out receipts/documentation etc on his consignments. If Joe wasn’t sophisticated enough to cover the potential issues that could arise, why would anyone think his wife would have the answers? Some of the cuemakers keep records on who owns their goods. This may end up taking years to resolve if it ever does. Very sad.

PDX said:

I wish my cue had that weight bolt. Honestly that weight bolt is closer to a certain era JW bolts than mine.

I see similarities too, but I also see differences. The shaft is 13.5mm with an ivory ferrule and different railroad tracks.

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Yes, I wouldn't say your cue is one of these. The one you have does look like it was made from some production cue...or the result of repairs.

Chopdoc said:

I have two of these cues, but these are not my pictures. Penn Ray is the brand. Import from the 80's. I see similarities.


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I wish my cue had that weight bolt. Honestly that weight bolt is closer to a certain era JW bolts than mine.

I see similarities too, but I also see differences. The shaft is 13.5mm with an ivory ferrule and different railroad tracks.

has the family said send us pics of your cues and we will return them? or give some kind of proof.?

fastone371 said:

Seems like a lot of exaggerating going on here. Valley cue balls may not play like a red circle or a measle ball but they dont make the game unplayable. If you find it to be that bad why are you going to a bar to play pool? There must be a pool hall around that has better tables or find a bar with a Diamond.

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Well come on out to the wilds of the middle of Montana and show me where these pool halls are that aren't 100 + miles away in just one direction ha ha when George Frank had the Corner Pocket Billards going strong many years ago yes pool halls were a bit more common until a host of things happened and they all faded into the sunset .

easy-e on the stream now. I missed the first few games.

Over the years I have been in some of the worst places you can imagine. It is possible for valleys to play well if not great. However it’s rarely the table alone thats the problem. Last week I played in one of the worst rooms I have ever been in. Valley table with dead spots on rails. Worm slow cloth, mud cue ball, old dirty balls that didn’t even match, dim light, super flimsy plastic rack. All of this compounded by a thick cloud of smoke. I told my team captain never again will I play there.

jay helfert said:

If my tip was too hard I would "tenderize" it using a four way file. Still a great tool to have. I would lightly pound the tip too soften it. It worked. Then use a tip tool (Butera's, then changed to the round disc later) to abrase the tip. And cleaned up the mushroomed tip edges with extra fine sand paper. Prefered Champions but used Kamui later.

I guess I'm as old school as it gets.

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Then to finish up that thought Jay it was Frank McGowan who suggested to me to get a 4 way wood rasp to use as a tip tool so I can blame him for that .

also cheapcues.com in portland or. is very cheap and reputable. and does what they say.

they have a brick and mortar store as well and that is one of my prerequisites for buying most times over the net.
and have pool people that work there.

both are good. i would order from either for things i would want to be sure of.
dont know if the other has a store as on their site they dont give any address but they are certainly legit.