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What beginner pool tip do you wish you learned sooner?

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Patrick Johnson said:
"Vertabrate movement" means movement of the spine (vertabrae), right? How do you think that works in the stroke?

And how does slight rising of the elbow on the backswing "make the stroke much more efficient"?

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Vertabrate movement as in how movement evolved in all vertabrate animals. This applies to efficient movement in a horse or cheetah as much as it does to a human.
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If the Fargo rating system existed back in the 70's, 80's, and 90's, how many of those top Legendary players do you think would have been an 800?

sjm
DieselPete said:
Agreed, and I'd go a step farther. I would say that Fargo is weak at comparing across generations. I think that comparing one year to the next is fine (largely the same ecosystem of data), but once we are looking at ten years apart... I have no faith.

To continue the example, SVB in 2015 was apparently 824. These are the players today that are at that or higher. (Which also means that 2026 SVB would give 2015 SVB a game on the wire in a race to 11, or something like that.)
  1. Joshua Filler DEU863
  2. Fedor Gorst USA850
  3. Pin-Yi Ko TWN849
  4. Ping-Chung Ko TWN848
  5. Francisco Sanchez Ruiz ESP846
  6. Shane Van Boening USA846
  7. Aloysius Yapp SGP842
  8. Ameer Ali IRQ842
  9. Jung Lin Chang TWN841
  10. Johann Chua PHL841
  11. Carlo Biado PHL838
  12. Jayson Shaw SCT836
  13. Wojciech Szewczyk POL834
  14. Albin Ouschan AUT833
  15. Eklent Kaci ALB831
  16. Anton Raga PHL831
  17. Quoc Hoang Duong VNM831
  18. Wiktor Zielinski POL831
  19. Naoyuki Oi JPN830
  20. Jonas Magpantay PHL827
  21. Dennis Orcollo PHL827
  22. Kun Lin Wu TWN825
  23. Alex Kazakis GRC825
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You're right on the money here, Diesel Pete.
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Dynasphere Challenger Ball Set

skor
garczar said:
huh? how are they 'ugly'?? The use a simple design with REAL pool ball colors. I guess you think the A'mith Premier's and Premium's are ugly as well? How should they look? Actual question.
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The solids have the number in a circle, while the stripes don’t, it’s not the first balls set to do this, I just don’t like it.
I prefer the Centennials style of design
Also the the prints looks like its bleeding
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What beginner pool tip do you wish you learned sooner?

Patrick Johnson
WobblyStroke said:
Im not gonna get into the minutia of how efficient movement works here but will say that I've heard pendulum purists say things like "it's okay if the elbow moves up slightly in the backswing".

I will go one further than them by saying it is not just okay, but that this tiny ossilation you see in the elbow of so many top players makes the stroke much more efficient.

I'm not saying they do this consciously (tho iI'm sure the obvious big moves are for some), but rather that their subconsciously driven stroke is utilizing a charachteristic of vertabrate movement that purely contraction driven movements cannot compete with in efficiency nor force control.

So there's nothing wrong with triceps back, biceps forward, there are just better ways to move is all.
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"Vertabrate movement" means movement of the spine (vertabrae), right? How do you think that works in the stroke?

And how does slight rising of the elbow on the backswing "make the stroke much more efficient"?

pj
chgo
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