Meucci or not ?

I picked up a vintage, MEUCCI Gambler for $140 that had no logo. I have pics somewhere. The seller was sure it was an import. I studied it. The work was so clean for its age. It had a beautiful micarta ferrule. My Spidey sense told me it was special, so I gambled for $140. A good friend of mine who collected Meucci’s saw it and was going nuts so it went to him.
Yup, that can happen.

But it will look like a Meucci.

Cue Repair, Shipping Disaster

Honestly I believe that is the least of the worries. The damage to the forearm where the pin goes into the forearm is what really needs to be addressed.
And then there's the construction technique that was previously used would need to be modified.
Yup!

I was waiting for someone to see that! I figured a cue maker would pretty much right away. When you see how it broke, that's where you would look first if you understand the weak point.

The forearm split. Just a tiny little bit, but that is the disaster part. Can't just screw this thing back together.

There would be several ways. Glue it clamp it, screw it back together. Maybe not wise to try.

Glue it, clamp it, bore it, fully core it, drill and tap it, would be another idea.

Glue it, clamp it, partially bore it, plug it, drill and tap it, would be another idea.

I am sure a cue maker knows other ways, but certainly I would want the most expert repair. Obviously one needs to have it physically in front of them to say anything for sure.

Thank you so much for responding, I appreciate your expertise.

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Palmer-Szamboti Bicentennial Cue

This is the only Palmer I've seen with a true Szamboti Bicentennial blank. I once doubted
they even existed, but when I questioned it a few years ago, Barry Szamboti e-mailed
me and told me he helped make the blanks himself when he was a kid. We wondered what
happened to the cues.

Palmer was originally planning to have a "Bicentennial" cue line, joining the bandwagon
of commemoratives and collectibles marketed for the USA's 200th Birthday celebration in
1975-1976. They decided on using Szamboti blanks that were in a red, white, blue and
black color scheme. The blanks were made and delivered, but Palmer scrapped the Bicentennial
cue line idea. The few cues they made, they sold off, then used the Szamboti blanks for
other cues in the years that followed. I suspect they were used in some of the Pete Margo
line cues later on, but haven't confirmed it.

How this cue came to light was the original owner brought the cue to Pete Tascarella to
put a new butt cap on it and build some shafts. Pete identified the Palmer as a Szamboti
blanked cue. Pete knows Szamboti's really well because of his work on Balabushka's. The
cue was brought to my attention by a collector who wanted to purchase it, so I researched
it for him. I checked with the original owner, and sure enough, he bought the cue in 1976!
We checked with Barry, and he confirmed it was the elusive Bicentennial blank. Later on,
when the deal fell through, and I bought the cue.

The original owner bought this cue from Palmer in 1976. It's very similar to a Model 11
from the 3rd catalog, which was introduced before this time, but notice the straight
black collar. What doesn't show up is the butt, which has a forearm-matching thin
blue ring.

I am putting these pictures up for everyone to see the differences. The Szamboti blanked
cue is the upper cue in the close ups. The other cue is a Palmer 3rd catalog Model 11.
While the color scheme is similar, the differences are 1) Szamboti colors are more subdued
2) The veneer work is superior, nearly perfect miters 3) the veneers are thicker on the
Szamboti 4) sometimes the points are longer, but not always. There are long points on
many of the late 1970's Palmer's too.

Anyway, I'm glad this example surfaced, if for nothing else than to satisfy my, and
other collectors, curiosity. The photos don't show it, but the Szamboti has very dark inner points, the Palmer has mixed brown and black (Macassar).

Chris


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Here's the full cue with 2 Palmer shafts and two Tascarella shafts. The wrap is thin black nylon, tightly pressed.

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The upper cue is the Szamboti Bicentennial blank, subdued colors, clean veneer work, the lower cue is a Model 11 from the 3rd catalog, made around the same time with a standard forearm.

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Here you can see the difference in veneer thickness and the quality of the miters. When they are very tight, and very clean, they are likely the work of the Szamboti's. Barry was only a kid at the time, but he produced mighty fine blanks!


Chris
Thank you for the background on the Palmer Bicentennial line, helps connect the dots.

Meucci or not ?

Maybe there's a diamond hiding amongst all that low end stuff. Might be worth keeping one eye peeled.
I dont know if you talk about my collection but i already did find some really clean one. Like a LE-VI Prédator. Yesterday i Found this one really clean meucci, i'm still not done with all m'y info on it.

Dufferin Conversion

Not sure who did this conversion, but it's very nice work. Small rubs on the butt cap. Other than that it is good condition. Rolls level and fits together well. Asking $450 paypal F&F or add 4%. USA only.

Butt: 29 3/4 " 15.3oz
Radial Pin
Shaft: 291/2" 4.2oz 12.55mm
Micarta Ferrule with Triangle Tip

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Racking at the pbs event

I prefer the matchroom events. I’m just not a fan of the spot shot nonsense if you go hill hill in the 3rd set. Seems hokey to me. If some find it exciting that’s great so you don’t need to waste your typing long posts how I’m wrong lol Idc I will say I like the hand racking. Even if you rack the balls tight not every rack will be the same so the break isn’t as guaranteed as using the template.
Must be a PA thing, I dislike the Spot Shot decider also (dislike is an extreme understatement). Brian.

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