I always hoped the People of Johnston City would have revived that week & held a BIG tournament to preserve the memories of the times.... Does the building still stand or is everything about the the time & place gone...

Patrick Johnson said:

"…in my experience, using bottom/draw on cuts usually requires cutting slightly more (thinner)." Never heard of this, and can’t think of a reason for it. Anybody else notice this?

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CIT is larger on stun than follow, he's probably talking about that. Imagine a typical 30 degree cut shot at medium/soft speed, you will have to overcut it slightly more if the CB has no roll on impact (stun) compared to if the CB is rolling on impact.

Excerpt from Dr. Dave's material:

Crazy stuff can happen, too.

A few weeks ago, I shot a seemingly simple 2-1 kick on a GC4 I play on regularly in a DC suburb. The shot was way off.

After my match was over, I practiced the same 2-1 bank and it was quite short. A very slight amount of running spin solved the issue.

Then I practiced the classic Corner 5 shot. I could not get the CB to go into the opposite pocket from where I shot hitting the third, second or first diamond. Didn’t matter the speed or spin.

Just a week earlier, the same table kicked just fine and I pocketed the Corner 5 shot consistently hitting the second diamond.

I’ve never played on a table that was so off from one week to the next!

Bob Jewett said:

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I see, hangars. Is this thread about hangers or hangars?? When I see a hangar I see lots of shop space, it doesn't necessarily have to be occupied by aircraft, in fact it just might be a waste of indoor space.

Again missed the 9 with the clock

The shot clock is getting JB
Show you that pro 8ball on 9ft is not that easy… he has no issue with the clock when playing UP on 7 ft

fats was the one who got jansco to start having the tournaments. he didnt care for playing in them. cash game player.
thats where the money was.

dr_dave said:

Based on my experience (and the video), you must think all other table brands kick and bank long (or you don’t really care much or you are good at adjusting quickly and subconsciously).

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Respectfully I don’t have your degree or expertise, DrDave, and I make no claim of certainty.

I have played on five Diamond tables in the past few years. A fairly new 7 footer in Massachusetts. Also, 7-foot and 9-foot tables in Nashville, TN, and 7-foot and 9-foot tables in Ashville, NC.

None of them kicked or banked notably short in my tests, as they did in yours.

My tests consisted of kicks using the tracks 2-1, 3-1.5, 4-2, 5-2.5, 6-3 and 8-4. I also practiced the main Corner Five shot.

Then I did some 2-1 banks and other banks.

I don’t doubt Diamond tables can bank short. There’s too much evidence to suggest otherwise. You have shown the proof yourself.

Why is my experience different? I don’t know. For one thing, it’s limited. Slightly worn cloth or rails could be involved. Maybe the weather - these were all humid locations at a humid time of year. I have also wondered if Diamond has been tinkering with its tables.

What do I consider long or short? I think of the angle of incidence and reflection.

This formula/idea/theorem, as you know, suggests a 2-1 kick and the like should result in the cueball cleanly and repeatedly knocking in the target ball in front of the pocket.

Most tables I have played on are pretty close, and I have played on most brands. My 7-foot Olhausen at home is spot on.

On some tables I have had to add a quarter tip of English to get the desired result on a 2-1 kick. That is the case with one GC4 I play on near Washington, DC.

I also often have to add a quarter tip on kicks after the fifth diamond. Or shoot one “number” above or below what the angle of incidence suggests.

All that said, I am a very good kicker and banker. I adjust quickly regardless of conditions. I’ve spent a lot of time practicing both.

I just spent a whole month, for example, doing nothing but kicking. Watched and rewatched every video I could find, including some of yours that I saw for the fifth or sixth time!

I am doing the same this month with banking. Nothing but banking videos and banking.

fastone371 said:

What are you on about? is this even pool related?? Sounds like a therapy session or something.

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Just the cauterizing effect of consensus. Loose pockets in this case; more playable pool without more ability, learning, smarts etc...
Impossible pockets beget retarded defense. Super tight all angle pockets don't.