Would absolutely do it.

I am sorry for striding off topic, as my reply is not really about pool ball collecting. But as I read the last messages here, I thought I might share this in here anyway.

I am researching games now for over 2 years, and started to make a website for them. It currently holds over 520 games, which I grouped then into different groups. I show the table setup for the balls, give a brief description, and try to link all ressources I have (like websites, full rules, images of the balls).



This is not online so far, and nobody except me and my girlfriend saw it so far. But as it got quite extensive already, I was thinking about sharing it with the world. I just don't want to have legal problems with some of the rules or images I used for it. Some of it might be still copyrighted or IP infringement. So I have to carefully check everything. And I am not even sure, if there is big demand for this anyway, except maybe a few nerds within the community...

And yes, I know I got the Bobble Ball rules a bit wrong there. At least I don't show anything which I might not be allowed to in here
As mentioned, it is still under development, but the big bulk of the core is ready.

Arrowslinger148 said:

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

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Say what? All cushions for a Pro 8' and a 9' table are 48" long. I think someone is telling you a story if they are saying Artemis are the only cushions that will fit.

Love to see a pic of your table! It's not often you see a true Gold Crown II.

Even if u were getting the cushions pretty much for free would u do the super speed still?

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Paul_#_ said:

Here is the data I collected and is at

https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/cue-butt-diameter-older-cues-vs-new.567297/page-2

https://forums.azbilliards.com/thre...-pool-cues-and-are-they-popular.582379/page-3

Becue ______________________28.6 mm 1-1/8"
Shuriken Cues _____________28.9 mm or 1.14"
Viking skinny _____________ 30.6 mm
Predator LE4 ______________30.8 mm 1.211"
1980s Schon ______________31.0 mm 1.22"
Newer Predator|Blak 3-4 _ 31.2 & 31.4 mm
Pure X_____________________31.3 mm
Cuetec ____________________31.7 mm or 1.25"
1980s Schon ______________31.8 mm
Falcon ____________________32.0 mm
1980s Schon ______________32.3 mm 1.27"
2010 Predator ____________32.6 mm
Brunswick _________________32.7 mm
Mali ______________________ 32.8 mm
Meucci BMC ______________32.8 mm
Viking _____________________33 mm
Briggs (100-year old) _____35.3 mm
Brunswick Master Stroke _36.8 mm
WHP 22 ounce ___________37.5 mm

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my predator blak is measured at 31.2mm.
and also 1st gen p3 fat butt is at 33.2mm

straightline said:

Interesting look. From a sales point, no salesman would cut anything so fair. I imagine any such discussion would have the bet moving skyward over one tenth of that spot.

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Shannon Daulton 30 yr ago or so, at the PCA event/CJ's place.... would give Amarillo Slim I think it was 13-4 or 13-3 and play him one pocket $300 a rack.
If he wants donations, that's that.
Doesn't seem like something a player of his caliber would do $100 sets even, feels like sponsor talk.
I think he'd like to play a good player/spot em and make em work.

Still looking.

Arrowslinger148 said:

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

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i replaced my Monarch Superspeeds on my GCI with Artemis, had the subrails done too, if I didnt tighten up the pockets I would have kept the Monarchs on it, they were still good. If I were doing my table right now I think I would put Superspeeds on it, I don't believe there is any advantage to Artemis, its just what everyone was using when I did my table. Monkey see monkey do.

trob said:

I never measured but I would say my p3 definitely feels thinner then my sp or roadlines.

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I think the exact opposite. I believe my P3 is slightly thicker than my SP. Now I got to measure.

dendweller said:

This was one of the 8 pointers from a while ago, not sure it was in the Roadline model so you may want to check.

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Thanks, this one is an 8 pointer too.

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length

Frosty said:

Playing with no chance to win is nothing more than donation and I don’t quite understand why anyone would be interested in that. Now if he wants to play some Banks and give me 5-4 as well as giving me 3 to 1 odds on the money I could be persuaded to get in the box.

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I agree. He's not really "looking for action". He's looking for donations while he practices. I'd respect him more if he posted something like "if I don't know you, I'll give up the 7 and 8 in 9 ball or 10-6 in one pocket". Then, at least a decent shortstop would have a fighting chance. He'd probably even enjoy it more if he was pushed / pressured a little.

If he gave me a spot I think I could be competitive with, I'd enjoy playing one of the best players ever and wouldn't be upset about losing a few hundred for the experience. I wouldn't enjoy donating knowing I had no chance and feeling like a complete nut hugger though.

Very likely you've got some dead spots. First, are you certain your table is a Gold Crown II? There's lots of misinformation out there. It is more than likely a Gold Crown I as the GCII was only offered from '74-'76. Either way, the subrail bevel will need to be adjusted to accept modern K55 profile cushions to retain a true 2:1 ratio (50"x100") playing surface. Having had Artemis on a previous table, I'm not sure the extra cost is worth it. I went with Diamond Black cushions on my Gold Crown I and love the way they play.

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