Pool Ball Collecting.

I am sorry for striding off topic, as my reply is not really about pool ball collecting. But as I read the last messages here, I thought I might share this in here anyway.

I am researching games now for over 2 years, and started to make a website for them. It currently holds over 520 games, which I grouped then into different groups. I show the table setup for the balls, give a brief description, and try to link all ressources I have (like websites, full rules, images of the balls).

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This is not online so far, and nobody except me and my girlfriend saw it so far. But as it got quite extensive already, I was thinking about sharing it with the world. I just don't want to have legal problems with some of the rules or images I used for it. Some of it might be still copyrighted or IP infringement. So I have to carefully check everything. And I am not even sure, if there is big demand for this anyway, except maybe a few nerds within the community...

And yes, I know I got the Bobble Ball rules a bit wrong there. At least I don't show anything which I might not be allowed to in here 😄
As mentioned, it is still under development, but the big bulk of the core is ready.

Monarch cushions

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length
Say what? All cushions for a Pro 8' and a 9' table are 48" long. I think someone is telling you a story if they are saying Artemis are the only cushions that will fit.

Love to see a pic of your table! It's not often you see a true Gold Crown II.

Predator 'thin' butt

Here is the data I collected and is at



Becue ______________________28.6 mm 1-1/8"
Shuriken Cues _____________28.9 mm or 1.14"
Viking skinny _____________ 30.6 mm
Predator LE4 ______________30.8 mm 1.211"
1980s Schon ______________31.0 mm 1.22"
Newer Predator|Blak 3-4 _ 31.2 & 31.4 mm
Pure X_____________________31.3 mm
Cuetec ____________________31.7 mm or 1.25"
1980s Schon ______________31.8 mm
Falcon ____________________32.0 mm
1980s Schon ______________32.3 mm 1.27"
2010 Predator ____________32.6 mm
Brunswick _________________32.7 mm
Mali ______________________ 32.8 mm
Meucci BMC ______________32.8 mm
Viking _____________________33 mm
Briggs (100-year old) _____35.3 mm
Brunswick Master Stroke _36.8 mm
WHP 22 ounce ___________37.5 mm


my predator blak is measured at 31.2mm.
and also 1st gen p3 fat butt is at 33.2mm

Fedor Gorst - looking for action in Louisville, KY tomorrow. If you could - would you?

Interesting look. From a sales point, no salesman would cut anything so fair. I imagine any such discussion would have the bet moving skyward over one tenth of that spot.
Shannon Daulton 30 yr ago or so, at the PCA event/CJ's place.... would give Amarillo Slim I think it was 13-4 or 13-3 and play him one pocket $300 a rack.
If he wants donations, that's that.
Doesn't seem like something a player of his caliber would do $100 sets even, feels like sponsor talk.
I think he'd like to play a good player/spot em and make em work.

Monarch cushions

100 percent gold crown 2 o/s .thats why told have go to Artemis because of length
i replaced my Monarch Superspeeds on my GCI with Artemis, had the subrails done too, if I didnt tighten up the pockets I would have kept the Monarchs on it, they were still good. If I were doing my table right now I think I would put Superspeeds on it, I don't believe there is any advantage to Artemis, its just what everyone was using when I did my table. Monkey see monkey do.

Help with Palmer cue ID

A guy in my pool league asked me about this Palmer cue.
It's got 2 original shafts that are worn down to probably 11mm.
The cue butt seems to be in decent shape for its age. Plain forearm with 3 dots.
Curious to know if someone can provide some information on model and value of cue.
Thanks in advance, and sorry for the terrible pictures (the bar has bad lighting).

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Palmer_2.jpg


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