Philippine pool tables

Do the Chinese tables there play short and bouncy like Diamonds, or long and normal bounce like GC's? I KNOW you know what I'm talking about.
The good tables I mentioned in post #1 play nice and straight. No bouncy rails. If the tables dont play good the players take their action elsewhere.

The bangers here will play on anything. Small time gamblers.

Larry Lisciotti

Here are some photo's of the playing cue Larry used for years, it was Custom Made for him by Palmer Cue's and it is one of a kind.

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Hope you enjoy the photo's of this cue, it is owned by forum member rdwell.

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Have you ever known any players who played really good with the heavy (mud) cue ball, that you see on so many Valley coin op tables?

Don't confuse the big ball with the mud ball, totally different animals. The mud ball was a standard size cb but with magnetic particles mixed in the ball. They played like a big heavy wad of gum. You had to play stop/follow with maybe short draw shots. Tulsa barbox wizard Fat Randy was one of the best with that cb. Matlock told me that Randy, in his prime, could gin it with that mud rock like few others. This cb was very common in the Midwest as the big ball faded away. Lot of really good mudball players 'cause it was so common.

Yeah, I am speaking of the heavy normal sized cue ball, not the oversized one. At least, the mud balls that I always seen looked very normal size to me.

Have you ever known any players who played really good with the heavy (mud) cue ball, that you see on so many Valley coin op tables?

The good players adjust. I’m not saying I’m a good player but I thought about getting a set of balls that were stock Valley balls. I didn’t. Went to VNEA for the first time last spring. It is a great time. You know what? The Valley tables aren’t identical but they play fine. You go down there and hit some balls and adjust. You will play about like you play. Your opponent will play like they play. You will win some, lose some and probably won’t lose a match because someone had more experience with the particular cue ball. Maybe you will at the highest level, but at that level the players…..adjust. The cue ball plays different from a measles ball which is different from a red circle. I thought some more about getting a set of balls or a magnetic cue ball. I haven’t. Why? Because I will go down there and adjust. It won’t be like my table in my basement with Simonis and my light and my Aramith pros. So what? If I work on my stroke I can draw the magnetic ball. Some bad sets of balls in bars I don’t even want to adjust to because they may not be balanced. Some sets in a recent league I played in were really bad.

Saw SVB playing challenge matches on a Valley with stock balls. I didn’t wait in line, step up etc…. He can adjust to that cue ball. If he plays a WNT event he adjusts. Predator event? He adjusts. Guess what? He plays really good on an unfamiliar table with imperfect lighting and stock balls…

I guess what I am getting at is it is great to have an appreciation for good equipment. We should want good equipment everywhere. But when it comes to competing, you have to get out of your own head and compete. Maybe the table is playing super short because of humidity. Maybe the balls suck. Go play.

I really appreciate your openness about social anxiety and such. I am trying to be positive here, not critical. I think you might have a lot of fun if you found a BCA or VNEA league and played enough to go to Las Vegas. Just play singles maybe. I am not the most social person, the most enthusiastic league player etc.., But if you loosen up a little you will meet some people you like, have some fun, and be forced to get out of your head and your house. That can be a good thing. And go play on some lousy equipment and use Master chalk. You will survive.

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