sjm said:

Adding to Jazznpool's excellent reply to your post, this type of thinking just doesn't work. Yes, give a Filler or a Shane bucket pockets, Simonis cloth, rails and balls with today's quality, jump cues, screw-on extensions, and the better pool tables in use today and they would run a whole lot of racks, but that's not a meaningful comparison across generations.

Today's players play with better tables that have better rails and better ball sets. They all have jump cues. They have screw-on cue extensions that ensure that the bridge need nearly ever be used. Fifty years ago, most players did not even have break cues, never mind jump cues. They played on slow, nappy cloth and some of the positional shots that look routine today were almost impossible back in the day. If you had to play a power-stun shot off a five-degree angle, you had to have huge power to make it happen. Need a long draw off a long shot? Only the best could do it back in the pre-Simonis days. One reason that Strickland and Sigel were the two best 9ball players forty-five years ago, shortly before the switch to Simonis, was that both had an extremely powerful stroke. It's so easily forgotten.

There is little doubt in my mind that, even on the equipment and conditions of yesteryear, a Filler of a Shane would have played at a higher level than their counterparts of fifty years ago, but by less than one might guess.

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couldnthinkof01 said:

10 has to be around 700 iirc

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fjk said:

It's mind boggling how cheap you can buy Chinese items. Look at this scale for $7. Shipped from China, packaged, marketed, and then sold for a profit...for less than $7.

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jasonlaus said:

I'll say this, when I lived in AZ for a year I drilled a 10 and a 10+1 nuts in playing even 9 ball. The 10+1 was so mad he tried getting me kicked out of playing basically anywhere lol. He though he smelled something sweet, instead he got a dose that left him sore for a week .

Im sure somebody on here can equate 10 and 10+1 speed to Fargo, I think the highest rating out there was 10+2 and im thinking only Scott Frost and Roger Griffis(RIP) were that rating.

All the $$$ out there was in the 7 and under and 8 and under tournaments. Sadly got sent out of town for work before I could rob those and everybody in them who gambled. I almost blew my cover completely with that 10+1. it was like an hr from where I lived, unfortunately, that wasn't far enough

Those days are long behind me, I don't have the ambition and I really don't like taking peoples money except in poker.

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