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Please, for the love of God, stop snowing!

RidgeRaider
VarmintKong said:
Part of a dad/husband’s job is to eat shit with a smile on your face for your family. My motto is, “I’ll laugh about it on the way to the bank.”

Remember, you are all that is man!
You thought the leaden winter would bring you down forever, but you rode out in your snowplow to the violence of the sun:
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I only have myself to provide for, and let me tell you, that a-hole is a complainer! lmao
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Cuetec Cynergy Packaging -- Can you purchase the soft cloth sleeves that the shaft & cue come in?

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straightline said:
Sleeves are available for 5 - 10 bucks Amazon. Probably 20 bucks a gross China.
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I've searched on Amazon and on billiard supplies sites, but have not found any like the ones Cuetec Cynergy cues come in. Their's are made of very thin, soft fabric. If you per chance run across something like that on Amazon, please send a link. I've not had any luck. Thanks so much!
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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

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The cueball doesn't know how the hit was delivered. Inanimate objects have no knowledge or memory.

What does matter is that humans are meat balloons supported by flexible sticks held together with rubber bands. So when someone says that a stroke has to be performed a certain way, what they are really saying is that they have to perform it that way because of how their body reacts to the forces of the stroke. In other words, you can't put force (i.e. cuestick acceleration) into one part of a flexible system (i.e. the pool player) without that flexible system moving to resolve that force. Therefore, a person needs to compensate somehow to get the reaction needed.

To bring this further, humans are all relatively similar, so what works for one person will likely work to some degree for another. The outliers will have less success learning from the masses (for example, I'm 6'3" 165lbs, what works for someone a foot shorter and 20lbs heavier than me won't work as well for me).

So, there is kind of an absolute truth in what a lot of players claim, but the understanding of why is questionable at best.
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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

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nataddrho said:
The OP wanted confirmation on the following: "My understanding is that for the CB's reaction after hitting it with the cue, all that matters is what the cue is doing at the moment of contact, within a few milliseconds(?) of the impact.... Does anyone here know any science behind this, does the timing/smoothness/delivery etc. whatever you want to call it really affect the range of possible shots that can be executed?"

The answer is no.

No matter how the tip lands on the cue ball, if it generates the same vector as from any other type of smoothness/stroke/timing/delivery, the result of the cue ball will be the same.

Your personal stroke mechanics may end up delivering the tip in a different location with different power and angle. In that case , the vector will be different. But it is the vector difference that makes the cue ball do something different, not an additional parameter affecting the cue ball at the time of contact.
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Yeah I know. But the genre is still people insisting ya gotta do this and that etc... they are not entirely wrong.
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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

nataddrho
straightline said:
But...
Player has to set this vector in motion. Many have crooked albeit compensated strokes. The nano histrionics may be the only way they can produce the required hit. Ultimately somebody has to _make_ the shot.
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The OP wanted confirmation on the following: "My understanding is that for the CB's reaction after hitting it with the cue, all that matters is what the cue is doing at the moment of contact, within a few milliseconds(?) of the impact.... Does anyone here know any science behind this, does the timing/smoothness/delivery etc. whatever you want to call it really affect the range of possible shots that can be executed?"

The answer is no.

No matter how the tip lands on the cue ball, if it generates the same vector as from any other type of smoothness/stroke/timing/delivery, the result of the cue ball will be the same.

Your personal stroke mechanics may end up delivering the tip in a different location with different power and angle. In that case , the vector will be different. But it is the vector difference that makes the cue ball do something different, not an additional parameter affecting the cue ball at the time of contact.
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Myth or real - Stroke smoothness as a requisite for certain shots

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nataddrho said:
It is a false belief.

According to Newtonian physics, the only thing that causes a cue ball to not be at rest anymore is the impulse vector applied to the face of the cue ball, which has been measured and observed many times with high speed cameras to last less than 1ms. Math agrees. The human body can not generate forces within this short period of time, period.

This means that the impulse vector is the ONLY variable you have to work with. A three dimensional vector is an arrow in space and has the following components:
Position of the Head of the arrow (location)
Length of the tail (magnitude)
Angle of the tail (pitch/yaw)

Therefore the motion of the cue ball is completely determined by:
Tip contact point location on face of the ball the instant the cue tip arrives
The angle of this force
The magnitude of this force.
These can’t be changed during contact.

Fluid mechanics of the air affects things slightly, but it so small it is negligible.
General relativity affects things slightly, but it is so small it is negligible.
Quantum mechanics affects things slightly, but it is so small it is negligible.
The hemisphere that you were born in affects things slightly, but it is so small it is negligible.

You get the idea.

The delivery of the tip to a location on the face of the cueball is not part of this discussion. Its importance in application is isolated from the conversation, because observations of phenomena in isolation from application is exactly what science is.

There is a tendency of uneducated people to be desperate to know something that everybody else doesn’t. They have no credentials to reject an established theory of science based on experience, because their experience is not controlled.

Also, many in the pool player demographic / specific political circles, refuse to allow others to be smarter than themselves. It is called spiteful ignorance. Beware of this.

My credentials: masters degree in electrical engineering, physics focus, and over 10 years of focused pool ball mechanics research.
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But...
Player has to set this vector in motion. Many have crooked albeit compensated strokes. The nano histrionics may be the only way they can produce the required hit. Ultimately somebody has to _make_ the shot.
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