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Centeno Wins Final Shots of Dramatic Close To Claim Oneida WPA Women’s World 8-Ball Title

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It ended in a few minutes of extraordinary high drama that necessitated the employment of judges and a look at the videotape to determine what had actually happened in the first of the last three shots made in the final match of the 2026 Oneida WPA Women’s 8-Ball World Championship. Over the weekend (July 22-26), the $40,000-added event drew 64 of the world’s top female pool players to the Oneida Casino Hotel in Oneida, WI; an unincorporated community that is part of the Oneida Nation reservation, located just west of Green Bay, WI. The Philippines’ Chezka Centeno went undefeated through […]

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Training to play in more than one pocket

Bob Jewett
Matt_24 said:
It really doesn't look that thin to me? No way the cue ball will go wild unless you overhit it.
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The shot is immensely problematic for many league players. Those players also are terrified by balls sitting in the jaws because they always scratch, not having figured out that they can hit the ball half-ball or cushion first and never, ever scratch. They also are certain they will scratch on spot shots. Practice with the Wagon Wheel drill should stop those worries, especially for the speed control
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Training to play in more than one pocket

Matt_24
couldnthinkof01 said:
An almost full hit with an easily controlled cueball (>)thin with wild cueball.(Especially on a barbox) Even if is appears more difficult.
I agree with your sentiment. It will give you an advantage as you get better.
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It really doesn't look that thin to me? No way the cue ball will go wild unless you overhit it.
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Energy transfer from cuetip to whiteball

Bob Jewett
garczar said:
IIRC this is one of the reasons Meucci's Myth Destroyer data is often considered flawed because the cue was held tightly, not like a hand's soft tissue.
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The original Iron Willie (Predator's machine) had a very rigid, tight grip, so most of the mass of the swinging mechanical arm was added to the stick. This was temporarily solved during the Jacksonville Experiment by wrapping the butt of the cue with bubble wrap.
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Energy transfer from cuetip to whiteball

Bob Jewett
Not Dead Ted said:
Or maybe not. I can't access the article without forking over some dough, but it looks interesting:

Energy loss in cue-ball collisions​

Rod Cross

Published 6 September 2021 • © 2021 European Physical Society. All rights, including for text and data mining, AI training, and similar technologies, are reserved.
European Journal of Physics, Volume 42,Number 6

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Rod has gotten several things wrong. For example, he felt that cue ball deflection was due to minor miscues. It's not.

The flesh of the hand is too soft to let the hand have any significant influence on the cue stick during the contact time. The hand is roughly 100 times softer than the tip/ferrule, as measured by high speed videos multiple times. That means that a very firm grip, or accelerating at the time of tip-ball contact might increase the effective mass of the stick by 1%, but that's not enough to do anything that can't be done by a very slightly faster stroke.
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Intentional Double Hit

C
iusedtoberich said:
Roll call! Who's still here after 20 years.

I think both the 1st post in this thread and the 20 year resurrection post could and should be treated as "unsportsmanlike conduct" and loss of game.

Since this thread was started, in one pocket, an intentionally double hit to freeze the CB to the tit is often now played a foul plus BIH.
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I made the topic 20 years ago and I’m still here 😁

To be clear, that wasn’t something I would have done if I was in that situation. If I remember correctly I had a debate with a friend at the poolhall over a situation like this which is why I asked here.
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Energy transfer from cuetip to whiteball

GideonF
garczar said:
That's all fine if that's what the shot requires. A short/quick stroke cannot produce the speed needed for,say, a long draw shot. That requires speed that the short quick stroke will never generate.
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I think this is an overstatement. Take a look at this clip of Alex using his little punchy stroke to get some excellent draw.

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Now we aren’t all Alex and when trying for good draw a longer stroke is better for most of us, but I think it’s fair to say a short quick stroke can produce excellent draw.
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