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Content for the old 9-ball rules--Push out--ball in the Kitchen

J
Link didn’t work right- see below

Ball in hand not push out, but balls made on scratch spot and scratch on break is behind the line. I haven’t watched the whole thing, but the first 4 minutes have a couple things different from the new rules.

Link didn’t work. Match is Billy Incardona vs Danny DiLiberto 1989 McDermott Masters VI. Search on YouTube or here on Az.
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Shaw vs. Doung Quoc Hoang

Jaden
GideonF said:
Gambling remains illegal in Vietnam. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it definitely wouldn’t be discussed publicly on a stream or in relation to a high profile match.
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Two players playing each other for money is not gambling. Side betting on the play, IS.

:edit: Depending on where you are, it might or might not be legally gambling to have a wager on your playing another player.
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Shaw vs. Doung Quoc Hoang

Jaden
jay helfert said:
The kids all love Hoang! Reminds me of Efren in the Philippines. Hoang is a national hero.

Watch out. Some of these will become top players. More to come from Vietnam.
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I've been impressed with Vietnam and particularly huong for the last couple of years. I was also impressed for a while from the Poles but while they're still there, they don't seem as much of a threat as they did...
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I Like the WNT But....

skor
I think that pool fans are the worse fans in the world… nothing is ever good enough 🫩

The pro snooker tour play just snooker, same game, same table, same cloth color, same players, just different location and it works great.

In fact in all the sports, they play the exact same game by the same players in different locations… Tennis, basketball, football etc.

WNT = World Nineball Tour
It’s doesn’t make any sense to play any other game.
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The new U S. pro pool tour

jay helfert
JPB2 said:
You aren’t wrong for having the thought, but I actually like watching streams of regional events or action matches. Streams from the Hard Times events are good, although I know not everyone likes them. I watched some of the Piazza’s stream last weekend and I watch some others. I often prefer the “ real” to the higher production pool stuff. I would guess some others agree with me.
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Me too, many strong players in these events, plus whopping calcuttas. First place in the tourney maybe 15K. First in the calcutta maybe 40K!
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Cue pivot SOTW alternative?

BRKNRUN
heater451 said:
I should have thought of the similar triangles part, but I was focused on what the change would be in 'a', as 'A' decreases, but 'ab' stays the same. I'm going to have to throw some values in a spreadsheet. :unsure:
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Funny thing is....years ago I told this method on a drive back from Vegas to a long time avid pool player I had played on BCA teams with in vegas back when it was at the Riviera (now passed away RIP) He shockingly to me had never heard of this method......He was a math guy and actually had a "mathnasium" or something along those lines where they did math well beyond my knowledge.....Next time I saw him back in AZ I showed it to him on a table....He applied the method and kicked a ball in using it and was so intrigued he went home and did a whole math work up on it. He actually sent me a paper on it....LOL

Meanwhile.....One of the main reasons I use the method is because I "don't" have to do math to use it.
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I Like the WNT But....

jay helfert
BasementDweller said:
I like what Matchroom has done with 9 ball. Their production is really good and the tournaments are enjoyable, but I'm afraid the WNT is going to peter out. Ultimately, I think they made a mistake going all-in on one game. I'm a fan, but I'm finding their tournaments are all having the same feel, and it's hard to distinguish one from another. The same setting, the same gray cloth, and the same players, doing the same thing in a different location.

I don't really like 8 Ball, but maybe they could have added more variety to their calendar by adding the other disciplines, or at least a single 8 ball tourney and maybe even 10 ball. Either that, or they need to figure out a better way to differentiate their tourneys. I could be totally wrong, and they are just running into the limitations intrinsic to pool. Plus, I do understand that there are competing organizations. I also do think 9 ball is a great game for professionals. But -- if I'm losing interest as a fan, surely there's something they could do differently.

Anybody else feel like all their tourneys are just bleeding into each other.
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They're doing just fine imo. More tournies in the U.S. is great. Go back to the traditional ball colors would be a big improvement. The new colors bleed together.
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Shaw vs. Doung Quoc Hoang

jay helfert
DieselPete said:
OK...

My point, which might have been missed...

You could put on an exhibition event and through sponsorship money pay both players an appearance fee. Say, $15k each. Then put another $15k in the middle, so they will play hard.

Then one player is losing, badly, and decides that he'll take the $15k he was given (perhaps plus travel expenses) and start to mail in his effort instead of grinding like a champion.

SO...

Any idea if they were paid an appearance fee to participate in this event?
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Probably some guarantee money but nothing like 15K. 5,000 tops
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