middleofnowhere said:

Reminds me of the surfer's. They chase waves entering contests but no real chance to make any money. They were called "Surf bums". Then you also had "Tennis bums". Maybe we need to coin a new term "Pool bums".

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I don't follow pro surfing that closely, but I think the top pros can make over $1 million a year when factoring in sponsorship

I use a Viking Crush. It works for me better than anything I have tried. I like the phenolic tip. I believe technique is more important than the break cue you use. No break cue works magic.

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Taxi said:

I'm also not thrilled with most of Rogan's political views, other than his take on the Iran debacle, but the last thing that pool needs is some sort of political test. Rogan obviously loves pool, has done a lot to promote pool, and from what I've seen he's not that bad a player. I'd love to see him enter the Open for the publicity it'd attract to the event. Two thumbs up.

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Maybe he could draw that Andy guy, I think it’s Goldstein

kling&allen said:

I'm just a hobbyist and make a handful of cues a year (and pens too). Be very careful with the CA, you can read up on the many health problems turners and cue makers have faced with it.

It takes forever, but I get the best results with West. I would invest in a Solarez setup if time mattered.

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I haven’t heard much about west, looks like they carry multiple things, any specific products that work best for you?

Definitely heard about the dangers of CA, I need to compare that against other options as well to minimize potential health risks, even though I take all the precautions I can. That’s why I was really hoping brite tone was going to be a good option because it supposedly has less harmful fumes

muskyed said:

In woodturning when using CA for pens and such, I use boiled linseed oil either between coats or mostly with the CA when applying.
Never tried Danish oil with CA. Hard to tell what's really in Danish oil you buy, most brands are a mix of oils and small amout polyurethane.
I do use a lot of Watco Danish oil in woodturning, but not with CA, maybe I'll try it sometime.

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Gotcha, I’ll but BLO on the list for sure, thanks!

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middleofnowhere said:

Reminds me of the surfer's. They chase waves entering contests but no real chance to make any money. They were called "Surf bums". Then you also had "Tennis bums". Maybe we need to coin a new term "Pool bums".

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late on that one

Ģüśţāṿ said:

That means you're not getting good adhesion between layers. You need to test out some oil types to see what works best for your CA type and process, my preferred product was danish oil.

CA finishing has been extensively tested/covered by pen turners, quite of bit of information out there for what works well, you just need to sort through the crap.

I'm not necessarily the most careful player out there, nearly all my cues are used hard with bumps and bruises. For me, CA has been the most durable, but please don't take my word for it, test all the finishes out for yourself, so many different products out there with various pros and cons.

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Good point on trying things out, I think I’m just trying to avoid wasting too much money and time on less than desirable options.

I had no idea people were using oil with CA, I was just doing the paper towel and layering thing I saw on YouTube. Definitely going to try some different things with CA though!

GideonF said:

I think it varies by country. I believe the Netherlands has a non-trivial amount for top pros, based on success in certain big events. I remember Niels talking about it and how important it was for him to place high enough to keep it, and also I believe Nick Vandenberg stopped competing internationally when he lost his stipend.

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The Netherlands city Leiden used to have an Easter tournament every year at a place I think called Dijkje I played in. I finished 4th. They must of had like 200 players. I really like those people there. Of all the countries I've been to the Netherlands and probably Italy I could actually live.

Island Drive said:

Remove the 4'' and make em all 4 1/4'' for pro play.
Return aggressive rotation play back to it's roots.
Letting European minds make the pockets this small hurts the game/sport and the audience.
Seeing Gorst choose a safety, when he can cut a ball in is SAD.
The women pros NEVER use 4'' pockets.
For good reason.

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I agree with this, in fact, the tighter the pocket is, the more luck-based the game becomes. I've had a long discussion a very long time ago about this, people mostly didn't agree but I still believe it.

At a pro high-end level, the tighter pocket will give more leverage for the weaker pro player, because you added more luck into the game by allowing the game to decide who wins, sometimes the better wins, sometimes the weaker wins....some people couldn't grasp this. My idea is that there are a few areas where luck comes into play.

A) the break, due to the layout and how hard it is.
B) When a ball is missed, the luck comes after the missed ball because nobody knows what will happen next...will it favor player B, or will the guy who missed come back one inning later smelling like roses? If the later situation occurs this is unlucky for the player who was seated in the chair and extremely lucky for the player who missed. Or alternativaly a player misses and the ball wiggles and sit inside the pocket, which in this case may favor the other player who might be weaker.

Anyways, my idea is with smaller pockets, both players may miss, which leads to leaving everything to the hands of pool gods. It's really bad enough to have extreme luck in the break whether the pockets are small or large, now you added this? It's not good long term.

Let the dominant players dominate the weaker ones by running some packs. The weaker pro player will still miss, the extreme top nutch pro will miss less and thats how pool is played, by running 6 packs.

Imo, remove alternative breaks in rotation too, thats another topic, its boring as hell.
Also leave the pockets at pro size, thus removing the extreme luck that occurs after players miss a shot.

highkarate said:

Ok lol. So instead of a simple “wow I didn’t know that maybe I was wrong!” we’re going for a “I’m right and you’re a liar even though I’ve never been there”. You can live in your world and I’ll live in mine buddy. Next time you visit beautiful sunny Southern California, stop into a pool hall and and fire some balls into the rails on our beautiful 4” pockets. If you can get a table that is. Cheers m8

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He didn't call you a liar and I am not going to either , but if what you say is true you let the cat out of the bag because it is unheard of.

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Pool player 101

Can't blame him