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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

Chili Palmer
ChrisinNC said:
It’s not like the woman got up in the middle of her stroke. She had the option to back off until the woman left or sat down, then reset with her preshot routine. Even if there was a shot clock, I would think this would have resulted in a reset shot clock.
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Again, I agree with the fact that she had the opportunity but, you can't say you've never been distracted and didn't stand up and reset. Another example for me is: I was in a scotch double tournament a couple of years ago and my partner and I were the highest rated team in the event. Well, we're playing the second highest rated team (third match, both undefeated) and it's hill-hill and I'm on the 9B. 9B is on short rail, 2 inches off center diamond, CB is locked on the rail at the 2nd diamond up, as I get down our opponents are sitting on the bench directly in my view giving each other condolences because it's over then one of them stood up and I looked up at him, looked at the OB and pulled the trigger - missed. Sometimes we just don't do the right thing - but - the people watching should have some common courtesy. Especially in the situation mentioned in this thread, they should've known better.
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Lowest deflection kielwood

Hail Mary Shot
I finally got my kielwood after waiting months for it. Tried it for an hour before using it for wednesday's game. Shaft looks nice and I like the brown coloring to it from an aesthetic standpoint. Shaft felt solid and lighter. I adjusted well to it and felt little or low deflection. As others have mentioned, the sound is weird similar to the one on the video posted a few pages back. For me it makes me feel like I shot differently or did something wrong. It does sound distracting with my typical shot til I started shooting with it slow and short rather than hitting more forward. It does seem to have its sweet spot with slow finesse shots imo. Having said that, I'm not getting my typical draw shots or soft draws. So I'm changing the tip tonight.
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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

Chili Palmer
GideonF said:
There is a shot clock on the streamed matches. And there is no referee presiding in this situation, so there is no one to direct the shot clock operator to pause (or reset) the clock. All of which to say she didn’t necessarily have any option to get up and reset.

Now because their rule is you can take as long as you want when down on the shot (the 10 second warning only is given if you stand up) she could have stayed down and waited for the spectator to stop moving. But to properly compensate she really would have wanted to stand up and reset.
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There is a shot clock operator who will give you a 10 second notice.
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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

GideonF
ChrisinNC said:
It’s not like the woman got up in the middle of her stroke. She had the option to back off until the woman left or sat down, then reset with her preshot routine. Even if there was a shot clock, I would think this would have resulted in a reset shot clock.
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There is a shot clock on the streamed matches. And there is no referee presiding in this situation, so there is no one to direct the shot clock operator to pause (or reset) the clock. All of which to say she didn’t necessarily have any option to get up and reset.

Now because their rule is you can take as long as you want when down on the shot (the 10 second warning only is given if you stand up) she could have stayed down and waited for the spectator to stop moving. But to properly compensate she really would have wanted to stand up and reset.
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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

Chili Palmer
Rocket354 said:
Yeah, it's environment-dependent as others have mentioned. Definitely at a pro event, suddenly moving around in bright-colored clothing directly behind a shot can be distracting, professional player or not.

In a recent league match I had a (new) team do something that was above what I've ever seen, even in such a packed-in and boisterous environment. They were outgoing types and were slowly getting more animated and loud each game (I kept winning) until towards the end three of them were actually in a line, dancing and singing loudly to whatever random death-metal song they'd put on the juke box, directly behind my table-length shot on the 8b. Nowhere near a coincidence or a case of obliviousness, their actions were just from getting frustrated and so they were happily sharking in any way they felt they could claim plausible deniability. I nailed the shot, and ended up winning every single game I played against them, which I guess is the best revenge.
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LOL, just for fun. When I got back into pool in 2018 (after 14 years away - in a different state) I had recently demolished this guy in a "Best of the Best" tournement (think APA MVP tournament - still have the trophy) and we were playing in league and he kept being animated when in my line of sight then I had a shot that I needed to line up and he was standing right where I needed to be so I completely did a Jim Carrey move and jumped right in front of him and wiggled my ass in his face and kept backing up, lol. Turns out, he flipped me off and my teammate saw it. He continued his antics throughout the night. In the end, I complained to the league operator and APA corporate. His response was - Yeah, I did that. LOL. How can I argue against it, we were friends going forward. Funny how things work out.
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Perfect Aim / THE SHIFT will be on the road again. First stop will be Phoenix, AZ. FREE mini lessons everywhere I go......5/13/2026 1st day.

easy-e
CocoboloCowboy said:
I surprise anyone is taking his lesson in Phoenix, was out yesterday it was 100+. Road were empty. So Easy-e did you take a lesson, and of so what did you improve?
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I have not. He's booked for the next few days and I need to see if I'll be in town. I will certainly pay for a lesson from him if it works out. I've taken a lesson from a lot of different instructors. I always learn something.
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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

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DieselPete said:
Setting the scene:

The WPBA Soaring Eagle Masters, Pia Filler and Kristina Tkach are hill-hill in a race to 8. Loser will go out in 5/6th place and pocket $3,500. The winner will make a minimum of $4,500.

Tkach is looking to run out and is lining up the 6 ball into a corner facing three women. Admittedly, the shot and shape are not automatic.

The rest... the actions of the woman in a pink jacket, have to be seen to be believed. The chat lit up.

I should have the video set to the moment (1:50:10).

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It’s not like the woman got up in the middle of her stroke. She had the option to back off until the woman left or sat down, then reset with her preshot routine. Even if there was a shot clock, I would think this would have resulted in a reset shot clock.
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Audience Sharking (Unintentional, but INSANE?)

Rocket354
Chili Palmer said:
I was in a small local tournament a few months ago and I was on a run and down to the last ball before the 8 and as I was down on the shot some guy in the background yelled - like shooting apples in a barrel, or something similar. At first I was going to brush it off but I ended up standing up and saying something to him (I believe I said "Seriously, right in the middle of my shot") but, I also can't tell you how many times stuff like that has happened I didn't stand up - sometimes I make it - sometimes I don't. I also had a league operator walking past my shot stop right in my view, had he kept walking it wouldn't have been an issue. We discussed it afterwards, if you're walking by, just keep walking, if you're going to watch, don't stop there.

So, as much as I agree that the player had the opportunity to stand up, sometimes it just doesn't work that way. This was 3 ladies sitting together watching a match so I would surmise they are pool fans and have some idea about the game (that being said - APA 2's have no idea what's going on), had it been a woman sitting next to her husband and she knows nothing about pool, nor cares about pool, that's one thing, but I think in this instance that person is a fan of pool and should know better. If you are inline with the current shot you try to be as still as possible, it's common courtesy.
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Yeah, it's environment-dependent as others have mentioned. Definitely at a pro event, suddenly moving around in bright-colored clothing directly behind a shot can be distracting, professional player or not.

In a recent league match I had a (new) team do something that was above what I've ever seen, even in such a packed-in and boisterous environment. They were outgoing types and were slowly getting more animated and loud each game (I kept winning) until towards the end three of them were actually in a line, dancing and singing loudly to whatever random death-metal song they'd put on the juke box, directly behind my table-length shot on the 8b. Nowhere near a coincidence or a case of obliviousness, their actions were just from getting frustrated and so they were happily sharking in any way they felt they could claim plausible deniability. I nailed the shot, and ended up winning every single game I played against them, which I guess is the best revenge.
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