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3D Printed One Pocket Ball Rack

GoldCrown
iusedtoberich said:
Local room owner asked me to make a one pocket ball holder that the fans can see what the score is on a feature table. We worked together through many iterations to come up with this design. The wooden shelf and black square panel were existing to the room, and the owner wanted the ball holders integrated into them.

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It took a LOT of iterations of different concepts and print trials. One of the bigger challenges was to make it in two pieces so it fits on the printer, but with the seam smooth enough that the balls roll well on it.


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From the front view, its sloped 2 deg so the balls all roll to the left.


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From the side view, it's sloped 4 deg, so the balls roll towards the front. This allows stacking a second row on top once a player has 8, for handicapped games.


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The joining method of the two halves had to be really strong, and not interfere with the balls rolling.


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The print took a LONG time. 30 hrs for one player's score. Adding the numbers accounted for probably half of that time. I really wanted the numbers, the owner was ok without them. This material was wood based so they match the shelves better. It's the first time I used this material, and it actually smelled like sawdust while printing. There is also a texture applied so the quality looks better.

I tried to print it with the numbers pointing up, which would have reduced the print time a ton. But I couldn't get the lap joint to be perfect that way, even with support. This way is the strongest orientation anyway, so I went with it.


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There is a lap joint to keep alignment and strength. I was going to glue in addition to screw, but decided on screw only.


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Heat-set inserts for the screws.
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That green wall looks familiar. I rest my water bottle & Dorito's on it. Great job on the ball rack...nicely done. Nice design... the materials, construction, slight tilt.👍
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Pro aiming: Eyeball object-ball path & then cue-ball path with eyes near pool-table height

Paul_#_
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Pro Moritz Neuhausen aims eyeballing the path from object ball to pocket with eyes not far above pool-table height and stands a couple steps behind pool table. His eyes go right and left of that object-ball path and back to pocket center. He then repeats this aiming but for the aiming line of cue ball to ghost ball.

This is not the more-common intuitive aiming of pros where aiming is done standing up with only a cursory check while down on the shot.

Sharivari discusses Moritz in his YouTube video suggesting that amateurs could benefit by spending more time setting up shots as does Moritz and the pros. Moritz told Sharivari that he uses his method because he just struggles to get the right perspective for cut shots and straight shots.

I have tried the Moritz' aiming method today and it seems to help. No problem in lining up the line of object ball to pocket center. I tend to lose the line of cue ball to ghost ball, however, when I move my eyes right and left of that aiming line. The cue ball I see when down on the shot, too, is different from what I see while doing the back-n-forth eyeballing. I am trying to figure whether I can find during eyeballing the aiming spot on the object ball or the amount of cue-ball overlap of object ball. And, then, use that to aim when I go down on the shot.

Times when to watch videos:
Sharivari: 0:50
Matchroom (he won the game): 6:30 starts shot,
16:35 stands a couple of steps back of table;
eyeballs the line the object ball travels, moves head back-n-forth from that pocket path
16:40 eyeballs aiming line, head moves back-n-forth from aiming line;
16:46 turns eyes up
16:48 stands and takes two steps forward while going down on the shot
16:55 takes shot
17:08 in the next shot he aims while standing up
17:35 last shot, he moves head back-n-forth to aim about 10 degree shot
33:30 does back-n-forth aiming
34:10 stands up to rethink shot, does back-n-forth with object ball and then cue ball
34:30 takes shot
35:45 last shot
35:50 starts back-n-forth with cue ball aiming line, then object ball pocketing line, and back to cue-ball aiming line
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3D Printed One Pocket Ball Rack

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iusedtoberich said:
I don't think I'll print any more of these. (unless he wants more). They just take way too long, and I was sweating the print failing the whole time. I also don't know how well they will hold up. I designed them thicker than most plastic parts, and the parts were oriented for the most possible strength in the printer, but time will tell.

I might come up with a more universal design, perhaps out of sheetmetal, with plastic only where the balls touch. That way the plastic can be oriented to print quickly, and would not be relied on for strength. It would screw to a flat wall, rather to the underside of an existing shelf as these do. And/or could be carried around like a tray and put on a table or shelf during a match. I doubt there would be much demand, but if a room owner said he wanted one for each table I'd probably do it.

That's all, enjoy:)
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Pretty awesome. You should definitely put the files up on one of the sites you pay a few bucks for the files.

If you went the sheet metal route, a metal shear and a sheet metal brake would make pretty quick work of the basic design if you knew someone that had them or could get them cheap secondhand.
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10 best players in the world

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CanadianGuy said:
at the moment i view fargo as the closest thing to a best/most accurate list

i got a tier one list with 8 guys,

SVB, Filler, Gorst, Yapp, Ko Bros, Kaci, Biado

I would bet these guys against anybody outside that group all day, an 845 fargo avg between that group

I can see Yapp emerging as the best when all said and done
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While not as splashy as making a list, I tend to think that a tier system is more of a fair assessment. Let's admit that in a race to 9 or even 13, the guy in 4th on a list can beat the guy in 1st.

Put about 5 to 8 guys in Tier One, another 5 to 8 in Tier Two...

I like your Tier One list a lot. Maybe I would identify Kaci as the weak link and put in another player, but overall it looks good to me.
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10 best players in the world

sjm
Jaden said:
He's not even close to the greatest pool player of all time. Shane just beat him (not just in the "exhibition" also in the us open. He's the best player right now. Although his showing in the euro open left a bit to be desired.

Although I didn't like his early attitude and antics, he's getting to be my favorite player, but that doesn't put him in the conversation for goat. more like GFN, greatest for now.

Efren is still the goat, followed by Shane and Earl. Give Filler another decade and he'll likely be in the conversation if there even is still a conversation at the rate he's going.
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In Shane's words, Josh has "worn him out" in competition over the years, going as far as calling Filler an "alien.". In their two most recent meetings, Josh beat Shane 9-0 at the Derby City 9ball and he also beat him convincingly in 10ball in the quarterfinals of the Las Vegas Open 10ball. Yes, Shane has beaten him on rare occasion, including in the 2024 US Open 9ball semis, but he's had an awfully hard time with Josh over the years. If you don't know that, you are uninformed. Finally, attaching any significance to Shane's win at Amsterdam in an exhibition with screaming fans and 5" pockets is comical.

Trying to compare the record in the majors of any player since the Sigel/Varner era to that of Filler is simply time wasted. At age 28, Filler already has more major titles than Shane has at 42.

Filler has been the state of the art for many years now, not always the #1 ranked player, but the most consistent winner of big events., and especially big money events. Inclusive of 2026 earnings, Josh, at age 28, is already #3 on the all-time money list, behind just Shane and Efren, and he'll likely pass both within 3-4 years.

Filler is not only in the conversation for greatest player since Sigel but he is, quite possibly, the only player in the conversation. Perhaps you need to invest some time in comparing his competitive record at the majors to that of any other player you think belongs in the conversation. As for Sigel, he's in the conversation with Mosconi, Greenleaf and Efren for best player of all time, and neither Shane nor Earl are in the conversation with him for best American player of the last 50 years. Sigel is a top five nine ball player of all time and a top five straight pool player of all time. I believe that had he not retired early, he would be viewed as having had a better career than Efren. FYI, both Efren and Earl are on record as saying that "Sigel is the best player I have ever played against."
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Funny pic/gif thread...

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Rusty in Montana said:
Copenhagen hasn't changed a thing since it's inception other than a plastic can in Canada .
As the old commercials would tell you " Just a Pinch Between Your Cheek and Gum , Walt Garrison was their pitch man back then .

WB Cut was another favorite of mine back then it came in a foil pouch and was a bit more discrete when in the shirt pocket or back pocket of you're blue jeans .
Then there was Spark Plug which you literally had to cut or tear off a chunk of it , which was similar to the Twist chewing tobacco down in,many,of the southern states .
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I'd forgotten about those Walt Garrison Skoal commercials:

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Two Walt Garrison funnies:
1. His 'signing bonus' when the Dallas Cowboys drafted him was a horse trailer. He asked for the trailer so that he could trailer his horses and participate in rodeos.
2. Long after Walt Garrison retired, he had a little 'fame' as a chef. He was featured on a cooking show where he made his version of 'Texas Chicken Fried Steak'. At the end of the show, the host closed out by saying 'Well, there you have it folks. That's how you make chicken fried steak down south'. Walt Garrison blurted out 'that's how you make a chicken fried steak up north too if you want a good chicken fried steak.'
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10 best players in the world

mikepage
jbart65 said:
Most AZ members would probably agree Filler is the best player in the world. I agree, too. But I would not put him No. 1 in my top 10 based on his performance over the past year.

That honor would go to Aloysius Yapp.

Here’s my top 10, assuming the Ko brothers will skip most big WNT and WPA events this year. (Otherwise both would be in my top 10).

1)Aloysius Yapp
2)Joshua Filler
3)Fedor Gorst
4)Carlo Biado
5)Moritz Neuhausen
6)Johann Chua
7)Shane Van Boening
8) Francisco Sanchez Ruiz
9) Jayson Shaw (37)
10)Pijus Labutis

The next tier:

11)Duong Quoc Hoang (38)
12)Eklent Kaci
13)David Alcaide
14)Wojciech Szewczyk
15)Naoyuki Oi
16)Jonas Souto (24)
17)Kledio Kaci (20)
18)Daniel Maciol (26)
19)Albin Ouschan
20)Robbie Capito (24)
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What I have here is performance for all games over the last 12 months with everybody who has 1000+ games during that time. (So Ko's are excluded). Importantly these numbers ignore the player's Fargo Rating. So no veteran is buoyed by past success and no rising star is held down by earlier play. These in general are less accurate than Fargo Ratings but they are responsive to recent play.

For fun, I've put JBart's top 10 in blue and I've put his 2nd 10 in red. Green are players not in his top 20.

Guess who the top two are here.

And then guess who the next two are (in the 840s).
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what pros play with maple regular deflection shafts ?

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Lowell said:
Savannah Easton is not even 18 and she uses a wood shaft.

I don't even find there to be much of a correlation between age and carbon use, but rather location (Asia = more wood).

And on the amateur side of things, the vast majority of the cues I see at league are wood or hybrids, though carbon is pretty popular of course.
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Technically, she does. It's a Fuze InFuzed CF cored wood shaft. Similar to the McDermott i-Series and Predator Centro shafts.
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10 best players in the world

sudocrushms
jbart65 said:
I have mixed views on the shootout. I do find them exciting, and yes, both players get an even chance.

Ultimately, I tend to favor whatever makes the game of pro pool more commercially successful. Such success is what will support the game and its players.

As such, credit to Predator for experimenting with new formats. The game needs to change. It can't stay stuck in the past.
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I think the shootout format serves its purpose well. We'd all rather see matches determined in-game, but these players are so close that it's just not going to happen all the time.

I also think it's a good way to do a shootout. That shot is HARD. Way harder than they make it look. You definitely need to practice it and be 100% focused on it each time. That exchange with SVB and Kazakis late last year was absolutely absurd. I think they made a combined 23 in a row.
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