Clapping for Scratching on the 8ball

Bad karma is comin' for the cheerers of the horrid roles!

Any disrespectful actions such as this are just a sign of the lack of class and sportsmanship amongst many competitors these days. It's a shame that in just about every tournament or league I've been part of an instance like this happens.

The only refuge is if you get the satisfying chance of seeing those same people lose to the same situation and how drastically quick they are to put down those who are chiding their teammate for being the receptor of the horrid role from hell! I advise all who get this opportunity to just turn around...grin...and be devilishly happy on the inside! Karma will get us all, both good and bad. :grin-devilish:
 
Sharking!

Totally classless low life behavior IMO. Also my be sharking as they are definitely trying to get into your head by doing this. Not the type of folks I would be like to be involved with for all the above reasons. I have seen quite a bit of this behavior when I was involved with leagues and it is just one of the numerous reasons that I do not play in league pool. It is too bad that the leagues do not insist on sportsmanship, they talk about it, but in the end let it occur as long as they are getting your money. Even handicapped tournmanets are better behaved than leagues.
Dan
 
let's take the same situation to another sport. You are at an NFL championship game. Your team is up by 2 points, with 1 second remaining in the game. The opposing team attempts a field goal, but it goes wide right. Do you cheer for your win, or out of respect for the other team's kicker, do you wait until after the coaches have shaken hands on the field to begin celebrating?

Steve
 
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gunzby said:
I guess I just don't get it either. Any time I see my opponent scratch I usually shake my head....feeling their pain because I don't want to win like that. Any time I see em scratch on the 8 I'll do the same and tell em "tough break".....and I definitely don't wanna win that way so there would be no need to clap regardless of the importance of the match.
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I have to agree with the above reply.
 
You bunch of liars. You can't tell me that something like this hasn't happened to you and you, may not have cheered, but broke into a smile or a "yeah." Especially gambling or betting on matches. It is a little classless, but we've ALL done something similar. I guess you play golf just for fun and fresh air, too. Well then don't even take a scorecard.

Also, we don't know the whole story, either. There may have been words prior, or even a little joking around, or animosity, or well almost anything. Come on guys, we weren't there.

Matter of fact, I think we should be able to "chatter" like in little league baseball. "Player can't play. He's known as a Poodle. Dog it. Dog it. Dog it!"
 
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pooltchr said:
let's take the same situation to another sport. You are at an NFL championship game. Your team is up by 2 points, with 1 second remaining in the game. The opposing team attempts a field goal, but it goes wide right. Do you cheer for your win, or out of respect for the other team's kicker, do you wait until after the coaches have shaken hands on the field to begin celebrating?

Steve
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Bad comparison, especially for a pool teacher. Well lets use the NBA free throw as an example. When was the last time you witnessed someone shooting the nine or eight ball in with the crowd jumping up and down waving hats and any other thing in their hands while he/she is shooting?
 
I see it happen a lot (watch the inappropriate clapping on televised events especially) and I think the intent is honestly to celebrate the win rather than show some kind of sarcastic glee at the opponent's screwup. While I personally don't clap, I don't hold it against 'em. At least not for that reason.

Maybe I'm too strict but I don't even like loud hooting and hollering and clapping to celebrate a win, even if it's a total miracle and a Really Important Game™. It's gonna shark players on other tables who are still trying to win their own really important games. A quiet fist bump and a word of congratulations to the winner is enough for now, and let the hooting commence after everything's done.
 
Steve you have a good point,
At these events (Professional mostly) I know college arenas also mimic the Pros.
A buzzer beater that fails
A close play at the plate for THE run to tie the game and is also the final out.
A putt on the 18th to tie that lips out.
A puck that hits the goal post and out at the buzzer for the tie.

All final actions of a game that because of the failure, the opponent WINs.

None of these celebrations are considered Un-Sportsmanlike behavior. Why is this different than pool?

Because pool players are only in it for the glory and experience. They have to PAY to get into that situation. Sure there might be some little amount of money they can win, but they have probably spent more than the winnings just to get to event.

It is not appropriate any other time of the game, why so at the end?


pooltchr said:
let's take the same situation to another sport. You are at an NFL championship game. Your team is up by 2 points, with 1 second remaining in the game. The opposing team attempts a field goal, but it goes wide right. Do you cheer for your win, or out of respect for the other team's kicker, do you wait until after the coaches have shaken hands on the field to begin celebrating?

Steve
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pooltchr said:
let's take the same situation to another sport. You are at an NFL championship game. Your team is up by 2 points, with 1 second remaining in the game. The opposing team attempts a field goal, but it goes wide right. Do you cheer for your win, or out of respect for the other team's kicker, do you wait until after the coaches have shaken hands on the field to begin celebrating?
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Actually it's more like you're down by one, the other team has the ball and you're not even on the field. They snap the ball, it goes flying past the quarter back and rolls out the back of the end zone for a safety as time runs you and you win by 1.

in the football case both teams are still actively playing in it. The actions of the defensive line can mess with the kicker and is part of the game. Even though the kicker missed the field goal the actions of your team still had an active effect on the outcome.

Also, in the football analogy you were winning before they missed. In pool depending on the situation you may not have even shot let. They break and run but scratch on the 8... You did not a thing to win...

Just IMHO that excess celebration after winning due to a foul on the opponents side before the match is over is rude. I consider the match over after both people shake hands (unless of course one of them is rude and refuses...)

Brian
 
The rules state that if you scratch in 8-ball you lose the game. It's a lousy way to lose and a lousy way to win. Clapping for the opponents scratch is poor sportsmanship in my opinion.
 
BTW....I was ALSO surprised by the team's reaction. The teammates of the guy who scratched just sat there and took the loss and the clapping. Do you guys simply take in what happened and keep it to yourself? I may get killed for saying this, but if that happened against my team, my blood would have been boiling too much and I think I would have said something to them b1tches who were clapping! Okay okay, I at least would have said something loudly to my own teammates about how rude the other team was, and would have shot a few mean looks at them. lol
 
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Unfortunately, this doesn't just happen in league type play. This even happens in women's tournaments with players that supposedly have been playing a very long time and should know better.

Something similar happened to me at the WPBA Regional Tour Championships, where I dogged the 9 ball and it hung in the hole where my opponent could make it with her eyes closed. A friend of hers, another player in the tournament, snaps her fingers after she makes the 9ball. It wasn't hill-hill or anything, but that 9 did cost me the match in the end. Of course it was my own doing, but this is still a situation (in my opinion) that doesn't deserve a 'snap'.
 
People like that tend to get an opinion of what i think of them and their team. Then my team normally asks them to gamble.

That kind of crap is only meant to start fights, and you have to be a moron to think its ok to do.
 
akaTrigger said:
BTW....I was ALSO surprised by the team's reaction. The teammates of the guy who scratched just sat there and took the loss and the clapping. Do you guys simply take in what happened and keep it to yourself? I may get killed for saying this, but if that happened against my team, my blood would have been boiling too much and I think I would have said something to them b1tches who were clapping! Okay okay, I at least would have said something loudly to my own teammates about how rude the other team was, and would have shot a few mean looks at them. lol
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I had the same thing happen to me not to long ago in the state tournament. I was playing a kid who was 10 and his family was watching and cheering every miss that I made. It was brutal. I ended up winning the match but didn't play very well. I was going to ask the kid to step outside but he was pretty big for a 10 year old:smile:
 
can't be the first time u seen this in pool? not kewl but happens all the time in pool. i agree on not celebrating failure but rather success, with tact of course! something alot of pool players lack in badly!
 
akaTrigger said:
I was at the BCA Texas State Tourney last weekend and I saw a guy scratch on the 8 ball. The opposing teammates then started clapping!

I realize it was a big match (for the hotseat) but I couldn't believe the guys would clap for that.

In the women's team event we kind of duck our heads and don't high-five with a win like that, and yet these guys were clapping and hollering. I guess I just don't get it.
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ever watched the mosconi cup:confused:
 
akaTrigger said:
I was at the BCA Texas State Tourney last weekend and I saw a guy scratch on the 8 ball. The opposing teammates then started clapping!

I realize it was a big match (for the hotseat) but I couldn't believe the guys would clap for that.

In the women's team event we kind of duck our heads and don't high-five with a win like that, and yet these guys were clapping and hollering. I guess I just don't get it.
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Instead of clapping - what if the other player just yells out 'Hubba Hubba'
 
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