Clapping for Scratching on the 8ball
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League players, in the immortal words of Tony Soprano, whadayagonnado? I've seen that happen in Vegas before also and it is second class behavior, very bush league. I mean, act like you've won a match before.
so noble...
Since you hate winning that way so much, do you offer to replay the game every time it happens (during gambling sessions also)?
If you do this... then I will certainly believe you feel bad about winning on a scratch.
That would remove any guilt you may feel. :big smirk:
Maybe you like to win anyway you can, but I DO hate to win like that....sorry if you think that is BS. I hate when I'm given ball in hand on the money ball too, but you don't have to believe me on that one either.
I love it when others know how I feel about something....
Since you hate winning that way so much, do you offer to replay the game every time it happens (during gambling sessions also)?
If you do this... then I will certainly believe you feel bad about winning on a scratch.
That would remove any guilt you may feel. :big smirk:
I dunno, I am one who might feel that, "I hate to win like that". What that translates to for me is that I'd much rather have won by my good play than by my opponent's bad roll, etc. It doesn't mean that I'd rather lose, although in the long run I would rather know that my opponents will punish me when I give them chances to get out because that will force me to elevate my game.
"I hate to win like that", I think is just a matter of trying to remain humble and acknowledge the fact that they played well and just got unlucky or made an uncharacteristic mistake. I don't always verbalize this to them, because I know it's rare when someone actually makes me feel better after a loss when they try to console me. It's like, just leave me alone and let me lick my wounds in peace. Don't patronize me. LOL.
Anyway, if I happen to come out ahead by luck, I'll still take the win. They have to earn it, rather than being given the win because they got close. Luck is part of the game, and your opponent's errors are also part of the game. If not, we should all only enter pro tournaments, to minimize the chances of winning on our opponents' mistakes.
Just my 0.02 v-cash.
I totally agree...
I feel the same as you.
My points were regarding those that stated they "hated to win that way".
They don't "hate to win that way".
If they really "hated to win that way" they would, without exception, offer to replay the game. I believe this to be a rare occurrance.
As you stated, we would rather win through our good play.
However, We all "take" the win and "tough noogies" for our opponent.
I feel the same as you.
My points were regarding those that stated they "hated to win that way".
They don't "hate to win that way".
If they really "hated to win that way" they would, without exception, offer to replay the game. I believe this to be a rare occurrance.
As you stated, we would rather win through our good play.
However, We all "take" the win and "tough noogies" for our opponent.
I don't feel "guilt" in winning with a scratch on the 8 or 9 (whatever); it is still my opponents fault that he/she didn't control the cueball enough not to scratch, but it certainly doesn't give me a sense of accomplishment winning that way.
Me saying that I don't like winning that way isn't BS, because I want to runout a game for a win...don't know how else to put it to you. If I were in a tourney and won every single game that way would I feel great about my play.....? Nope, but then again, it isn't my fault "they" lost either; it's theirs.
So, keep on enjoying your "wins" that have nothing to do with your play, and I'll just mark them up in the W column, and feel much better about the ones I finish in a way that reflects good play on my part - little smirk -
Unfortunately, to be expected. Ever since WWII pool has suffered from its reputation of being a crude game played by the lower classes. I don't think league play has helped that reputation at all. If I ever played against anyone that did this, I'd be tempted to give myself a reason to replace a broken cue. No wonder the general public thinks we're bums.
Personally
I prefer..."Yeah, I would have shot it exactly the same way....but different!"
Or perhaps..."Yeah, that's what I would do." as they are getting down on the ball...
Or maybe right after they make a ball..."You ain't out".
Or perhaps the ever witty..."Nice shot. Hey does your husband play?"
or how about..."I win" right after they give you ball in hand...
another nice one is after a scratch on an open break or if the break is wide open and they dont drop a ball..."Hey, is this a gimmeee?"
Or maybe this one..."Wow, either you are that bad or just that stupid."
or after they miss or hook themselves..."Isn't this fun?........Or let me rephrase that...isn't this fun for me!"
I prefer..."Yeah, I would have shot it exactly the same way....but different!"
Or perhaps..."Yeah, that's what I would do." as they are getting down on the ball...
Or maybe right after they make a ball..."You ain't out".
Or perhaps the ever witty..."Nice shot. Hey does your husband play?"
or how about..."I win" right after they give you ball in hand...
another nice one is after a scratch on an open break or if the break is wide open and they dont drop a ball..."Hey, is this a gimmeee?"
Or maybe this one..."Wow, either you are that bad or just that stupid."
or after they miss or hook themselves..."Isn't this fun?........Or let me rephrase that...isn't this fun for me!"
You kinda have to be a giant a-hole to clap your ass off when someone scratches on the 8 (unless it's one of your friends and they know you're just busting their balls)
Don't forget... "That's a nice shot! ... if you don't like money!!" :thumbup:
I think it's good that they clap. Heck, they should spit in my eye. If I don't like it, then I shouldn't scratch on the 8 ball or make it out of turn.
The first time I remember running into this was two seasons ago. It was a bar league and I had been undefeated for about 4 weeks in a row (like 12 or 13 games won in a row) and I played a nasty safety battle with someone to get control of the table and run out and I was moving through traffic and bumped a ball which bumped the 8-ball into the side pocket. The other team exploded in cheers and applause and I took a bow and smiled. Because hey, if beating me any way you can is worth applauding, then thanks for the compliment.
My teammates however, got pissed and said a bunch of things and it turned pretty ugly.
I never applause when someone else does it though, because I'm worried they'll take it the same way as I
And I don't want them to get a big head 
~rc
The first time I remember running into this was two seasons ago. It was a bar league and I had been undefeated for about 4 weeks in a row (like 12 or 13 games won in a row) and I played a nasty safety battle with someone to get control of the table and run out and I was moving through traffic and bumped a ball which bumped the 8-ball into the side pocket. The other team exploded in cheers and applause and I took a bow and smiled. Because hey, if beating me any way you can is worth applauding, then thanks for the compliment.
My teammates however, got pissed and said a bunch of things and it turned pretty ugly.
I never applause when someone else does it though, because I'm worried they'll take it the same way as I
And I don't want them to get a big head ~rc
To the feeling bad point... IMO when my opponent scratches on the 8 I don't feel like I have won, rather that he lost. If I put him in a position to scratch on the 8 and he does, that's a win for me.
If I make mistakes and play poorly, resulting in poor sportsmanship by my opponent I usually tell him I am sorry he didn't get my best game if I say anything at all.
In a tourney situation you certainly can't give the guy a do over for a scratch, so I think that comment was a bit disingenuous...
If I make mistakes and play poorly, resulting in poor sportsmanship by my opponent I usually tell him I am sorry he didn't get my best game if I say anything at all.
In a tourney situation you certainly can't give the guy a do over for a scratch, so I think that comment was a bit disingenuous...
Nice one!
I can absolutely guarantee you that I will use that line on more than one occasion tonight and through the weekend!!!! :thumbup:
I can absolutely guarantee you that I will use that line on more than one occasion tonight and through the weekend!!!! :thumbup:
Honestly when I first read this thread, I thought it was probably a misunderstanding of some sort. After all, who would be shallow enough to clap on an eight ball scratch?
Well it happened to me during a regular season league match a couple weeks ago and I was in disbelief. lol It was an "away" game and I was playing a lower ranked player and apparently, this was part of their "strategy". I was already playing like crap anyways and lost, but it just seemed like this group completely missed the whole point of league, especially handicapped league, which is to have fun and be social.
It was just weird. But the funny thing was that as soon as it happened, I thought of this thread. I would have posted earlier but hey, I'm lazy.
By the way, Texas rocks! I had a blast when I was there last month.
Texas loves you too. :smile:
Id say many people on here have enough class and sportsmanship to not even smile after winning a match this way. I know Ive NEVER celebrated a win like this(even to myself) until after Ive shaken hands and left the table. The fact you think otherwise tells me youre the type of player the OP was talking about.
Also, what does taking score when golfing(or in any sport) have to do with sportsmanship/class? Competition does not require cheering your opponents misfortune.
Please....
...don't hate on ALL of us league players. I don't see this kind of thing from ANY of the teams in our league. We respect each other too much and are all pretty much friends. People exhibit poor sportsmanship at all levels of every sport. We're humans after all. It isn't just league pool players.
MM
...don't hate on ALL of us league players. I don't see this kind of thing from ANY of the teams in our league. We respect each other too much and are all pretty much friends. People exhibit poor sportsmanship at all levels of every sport. We're humans after all. It isn't just league pool players.
MM