Micro-rings

qbilder said:
If I were dead or not building cues anymore, then it would be fine for somebody to pick it up & keep the style alive. But i'm not dead, and I am building cues, and I currently use the design style I created & honed over the past ten years. I would expect it from a foreign production factory, but never guessed it would be fellow American cuemakers. I can't do anything about but complain, which is no fun so I won't. I'll just raise the bar a little higher.
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Eric, can you define your style you are talking about for us, please? We were discussing if it was the ring work, or some other visible aspect of your cues that is unique. I for one, always thought it was your wood selections, but no one agrees with my analysis.
 
i love the look of that cue. if i may ask, how long is your wait list and what would a cue like that cost? thank you in advance.
 
qbilder said:
If I were dead or not building cues anymore, then it would be fine for somebody to pick it up & keep the style alive. But i'm not dead, and I am building cues, and I currently use the design style I created & honed over the past ten years. I would expect it from a foreign production factory, but never guessed it would be fellow American cuemakers. I can't do anything about but complain, which is no fun so I won't. I'll just raise the bar a little higher.
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well I think makers change with the times. Also a majority of cues are prob ordered by the customers. I agree with tommy I think it's your wood selections, playability and attention to detail it what makes you most popular. Even if you don't like the style you have to respect a guy that does his best work everytime
 
hangemhigh said:
Eric, can you define your style you are talking about for us, please? We were discussing if it was the ring work, or some other visible aspect of your cues that is unique. I for one, always thought it was your wood selections, but no one agrees with my analysis.
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It's a sum of all factors. I choose my woods carefully. I have a unique ring configuration. I use 1/4" joint collars & 1/2" buttcaps. My pins extrude 1.25" from the joint. My forearms are 13" long, not the typical 12". My pointed cues get 8 hi/lo points, not the commonly seen 6. Alone, none of these criteria are totally unique. But add them all into the cue, every cue, and you have a unique style that is uniform from one cue to the next & as such is identifiable.
 
qbilder said:
If I were dead or not building cues anymore, then it would be fine for somebody to pick it up & keep the style alive. But i'm not dead, and I am building cues, and I currently use the design style I created & honed over the past ten years. I would expect it from a foreign production factory, but never guessed it would be fellow American cuemakers. I can't do anything about but complain, which is no fun so I won't. I'll just raise the bar a little higher.
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Hey, QB. Maybe you got to take this copying as a form of praise for your work.

You can just take a look around on how many Southwest-lookalike cues they are in the market regardless production or custom.
By imitating your design, it is proven that your design is very well liked and popular. :grin-square:

QB, you have shown very good attitude by going a few levels up. :)

In a way, they will find it hard to imitate your designs and on the other hand, we(as your customers) will benefit from all the improvements that is shown in your work as well.

Keep these good cues and good work coming through, QB. :)

Proud owner of a Sugartree cue
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for some makers its not about integrity or creativity. its about the all mighty $$$. make as many cues as fast as possible and collect the cash. the best way to do this is copy the popular styles.

personally id rather make 1 cue for $750 right then 2 cues for 350-400$ fast.

then again im not saying anything we ALL dont already know
 
CMD said:
Truly amazing work! Someday I would LOVE to own one of your cues! I am not interested in the secondary market. I want "My own Sugartree".
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Ditto x10!!

Birdseye forearm with ebony points/handle...and those rings! wowowowo!! :eek::eek:
 
And...

And to boot they all play the nutz!!!

Cannot wait to see some of the other new things to come...thanks for sharing Eric!!!

qbilder said:
It's a sum of all factors. I choose my woods carefully. I have a unique ring configuration. I use 1/4" joint collars & 1/2" buttcaps. My pins extrude 1.25" from the joint. My forearms are 13" long, not the typical 12". My pointed cues get 8 hi/lo points, not the commonly seen 6. Alone, none of these criteria are totally unique. But add them all into the cue, every cue, and you have a unique style that is uniform from one cue to the next & as such is identifiable.
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Hey Eric, hope mine's in this batch as well...love your work always.

And By the way, did you get my pm?
 
qbilder said:
It's a sum of all factors. I choose my woods carefully. I have a unique ring configuration. I use 1/4" joint collars & 1/2" buttcaps. My pins extrude 1.25" from the joint. My forearms are 13" long, not the typical 12". My pointed cues get 8 hi/lo points, not the commonly seen 6. Alone, none of these criteria are totally unique. But add them all into the cue, every cue, and you have a unique style that is uniform from one cue to the next & as such is identifiable.
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That is what I was looking for, and I think the woods stand out more than any other quality of your work. Thanks, my friend.
 
hangemhigh said:
That is what I was looking for, and I think the woods stand out more than any other quality of your work. Thanks, my friend.
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The wood Eric uses does stand out but I think his cues scream Sugartree. It is not only the wood selection but all the other components, ie. the rings, butt caps, joint, collars, pin, points, etc. I have seen other cue makers post cues on this site that to me look like they are trying to make a "Sugartree". They appear to copy Eric's components and build a copycat Sugartree. They can try to copy Eric's designs but there cues will never hit as sweet as a Sugartree.
I think these "copycat" assemblers should try to come up with their own style like others have done.
JMHO

Glen
 
looks similar to what I ordered?

Eric,

I hope all is going well? I sent you a PM a while back and I got pretty excited when I saw this cue since I talked to you a long while ago about building a cue similar to BWCoco with 8 maple points into cocobolo. I'm not sure who is the lucky owner, but this looks really close to the cue I was talking to you about over the last year or year and a half. Let me know if this one has my name on it or if I might still have one in the works with you?

By the way, I love the new rings, they really have a unique look that is incredible.

Take care,

Spencer

qbilder said:
Yeah, mostly they will.
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