Has anyone else noticed how certain cues are sold Multiple times as Monster Hitters

Why would someone claim to be selling "the best hitting cue they ever owned" with that or some Ronco Billy Maise "monster hitter" jibberish to promote a sale? Perhaps because it is true. I sold the best hitting cue I ever owned and it has gone through 3 sets of hands since then. I would buy it back in a heartbeat but when I bought it, it was $3800 and now the current cost to its owner is over 6K.

Some people value cues for other attributes beyond playability. Implicit to the meaning of art, is that there is no function. If I sell a cue that inspires tremendous confidence because of the way it hits for me for another cue with many inlays, or an ivory handle or something, I'll be speaking the truth when I give up my best cue for another.

I value art more than I value my pool game. Maybe on a stellar day, I can run a few racks...but on any given day, I won't be the best player in the room and I can always count on frustrating myself with an unanticipated miss. My pool lets me down, but the beauty of a cue endures. I have and will again trade my best cue for another.

It has taken me years to narrow my collecting interest. I have parted with many fine cues before settling on makers and styles I will keep.

Fidelity is for marriage. In cues, I like a little strange on the side from time to time.
 
manwon said:
:grin-devilish:Hey guys has anyone else noticed that certain cues are bought and re-sold in a very short period of time, however, they are always listed as being Monster Hitters or the best cue they ever owned.:shrug::help::grin-devilish: Now to me personally how can this be possible, if a cue is all that WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO SELL IT!!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:

I am kinda getting tired of reading thought the for sale / for trade threads and seeing this Bullshit. Don't people realize that all they are doing is endorsing a Cue / Cue Maker that they really don't like? Then to add insult to injury many claim that they really do not want to sell it, but they really need the $300 or $400 right now or that they have too cues and the wife says a few have to go. Here again who is going to sell the best hitting cue they ever owned:confused:


I think it would be refreshing if people were just honest, and said something like this is nice cue, but it is just not for me, now is that so hard??? Now I know that if all the Bullshit is not added you think that you may not get a response, well I doubt that all the bullshit really effects anything except how others view you when they read your thread.;) !!!!!!!:yeah :grin-devilish:

Lets face it people Honesty is the best policy, and the long and short of it all is that you are really fooling no one anyway, well except maybe yourself!!!!!:smile:
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Well, for what it's worth, with my wife's upcoming cancer surgery I may just be selling some monster hitters because I need the money. See, it's not always bullshit.
MULLY
 
I think that most on this forum have not read the entire question posted by Manwon. It being:

"Hey guys has anyone else noticed that certain cues are bought and re-sold - in a very short period of time, - however, they are always listed as being Monster Hitters or the best cue they ever owned.".

I believe he is referring to the buying and selling of certain cue makers cues, commonly known as "flipping". If these are such monster hitters and hit a ton, why are they sold a very short time after purchase at increasing and increasing prices? Besides, just what do these phrases mean?

The phrase most over used I hear all of the time is that a "hit" is subjective. This may be the case in a few instances but usually it is the unknowledgeable or ones who can't play well who are saying this. Most players who have been around the block once or twice know what a good cue feels like and they also know trash. So many are influenced by a name on a cue or what someone else says about it. They are afraid that if their opinion differs from others then they will be labeled as someone with no clue to what a good hitting cue feels like. Just because a particular cue maker built the cue is certainly no guarantee that this particular cue plays well.

Every cue in the world hits differently than others. It is for this reason that you should buy a well made cue, from a good manufacturer or custom builder, and use this same cue for as long as it will hold together. This way it becomes part of you. Your subconscious knows what to expect so that every time you play or practice you are improving your abilities instead of wasting that time adapting.

Dick
 
manwon;1874373 said:
they are always listed as being Monster Hitters

I am kinda getting tired of reading thought the for sale / for trade threads and seeing this Bullshit.
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I couldn't agree with you more and I'm puzzled how the word

"Monster" was ever chosen to describe a pool cue which is just a piece of

dressed up wood. I can't count the number of cues i've seen with the word

"Monster" used in the description. How does a pool cue compare to

a "Monster"?

James
 
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It might definitely be hard to sell a cue with this description:

-Cue is 58", possibly 60" when you stand it on your shoe
-Hits like shit, but you might like it
-Pictures of this cue remind me of a chic I met off facebook that did not look like her picture
-My price is high now but will drop 4 times in the next week

I agree a simple the cue is not for me would be more honest then hits like a monster, hits a ton, a world beater in the making, or some other fancy descriptions you see on here. Keep it objective!
 
rhncue said:
I think that most on this forum have not read the entire question posted by Manwon. It being:

"Hey guys has anyone else noticed that certain cues are bought and re-sold - in a very short period of time, - however, they are always listed as being Monster Hitters or the best cue they ever owned.".

I believe he is referring to the buying and selling of certain cue makers cues, commonly known as "flipping". If these are such monster hitters and hit a ton, why are they sold a very short time after purchase at increasing and increasing prices? Besides, just what do these phrases mean?

The phrase most over used I hear all of the time is that a "hit" is subjective. This may be the case in a few instances but usually it is the unknowledgeable or ones who can't play well who are saying this. Most players who have been around the block once or twice know what a good cue feels like and they also know trash. So many are influenced by a name on a cue or what someone else says about it. They are afraid that if their opinion differs from others then they will be labeled as someone with no clue to what a good hitting cue feels like. Just because a particular cue maker built the cue is certainly no guarantee that this particular cue plays well.

Every cue in the world hits differently than others. It is for this reason that you should buy a well made cue, from a good manufacturer or custom builder, and use this same cue for as long as it will hold together. This way it becomes part of you. Your subconscious knows what to expect so that every time you play or practice you are improving your abilities instead of wasting that time adapting.

Dick
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Tap Tap Tap Dick, you hit the nail on the head!!!

I believe he is referring to the buying and selling of certain cue makers cues, commonly known as "flipping". If these are such monster hitters and hit a ton, why are they sold a very short time after purchase at increasing and increasing prices? Besides, just what do these phrases mean?

Yes I was referring to Flipping, but not with the intent you have described completely. In many cases cues made by certain makers do not always go up in price, but they are still repeatedly sold over and over again. The question is why are they sold so quickly, even though they are advertised as being the best at this or the best at that. It is certainly like you said Dick sometimes the buyer doesn't have enough experience to know what is good or bad, however, other times the cue in question isn't actually as good as it was described. The problem here is not a dig on the Cue maker unless he perpetuates the Bull Shit himself, the problem lyes with perpetuating the myth just to make a sale.

This is were all the subjective language comes from and that is the real purpose and were the real problem lies. Like I said before why would people want to sell something that is the best thing they have ever had, unless like Mullyman said in a post to this thread there are unfortunate circumstances where some one doesn't have a choice. To clear things up my comments are directed at those who buy a cue because of Forum hype and then sell the cue because they have discovered to late that it was nothing but hype. So they in turn hype the cue to attract another buyer ( Sucker) , who is also sold on the hype who in turn repeats the process.

People the best way to sell an item is to simply describe it completely and accurately. If we all do this we will feel better in the morning when we look in the mirror. I mean why would anyone want to continue Perpetuating a myth about something they do like or something they can not adjust to. The biggest problem with this method of selling is the fact that others are getting suck into the myth whether intentionally or not so and in effect it makes no sense to continue a process of screwing others just because we were not happy. Like another poster said buyer beware, and the more hype used to describe a cue that is for sale the more beware the buyer must be.
 
Well me personally... I am a cue whore.
No matter how great it is I am going to cheat on it very soon after buying it.
I cant help it.
No matter how fine they are there is always someone that is sick of hearing their crap and looking for some fresh.
 
mullyman said:
Well, for what it's worth, with my wife's upcoming cancer surgery I may just be selling some monster hitters because I need the money. See, it's not always bullshit.
MULLY
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Mully,

I tried to send you a PM, but your box was full. I hope things work out well for you and your wife.

James
 
I have sold/traded several very nice playing cues that were all great hitters in their own way, primarily because I am a habitual cue trader and I think almost any cue made by a reputable maker can qualify as a great hitter. I have also sold several that I bought here only to find that they were either slightly heavier or thicker than advertised and I just flip them around rather than trying to get a refund. One thing I have never done is advertise that I was desperate to sell a cue and I hope I am never desperate to sell one.

-don
 
mullyman said:
Well, for what it's worth, with my wife's upcoming cancer surgery I may just be selling some monster hitters because I need the money. See, it's not always bullshit.
MULLY
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Sorry to hear that, god bless to your and your wife. This is why I said I hope I am never depserate to sell a cue.

Best Wishes and Prayers from Kansas City Mully.
-don
 
Good post. Monster hit! C'mon, what I would call a monster, you might call crap. Besides, change the tip and you change the hit significantly. Buy the cue you like, built how you want it, by who you want to build it. PERIOD. BTW, great post. I hope you are getting monster rep for it!:thumbup:

BTW, I don't know half the makers for sale on here. I would guess most are the same. If a certain cue hits soft or overly stiff, just say it!!!
 
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rhncue said:
.............The phrase most over used I hear all of the time is that a "hit" is subjective. This may be the case in a few instances but usually it is the unknowledgeable or ones who can't play well who are saying this. Most players who have been around the block once or twice know what a good cue feels like and they also know trash................

Dick
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FINALLY.....Dick, it's obvious you know cues...............


skins --------- thinks 'subjective' and 'unknowledgeable' go hand in hand.....
 
I have never used a Cue to hit a "Monster" ... I usually employ my
Benelli M1 Super 90 for such tasks ...

Not certain what "hits a ton" means ??? ... must be an inside joke :confused:
 
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