Long overdue

All the things you said that doesn't define a sport does.Big paychecks endorsements mean success in that sport and mean there's a demand to watch it by the public.To find large companys to endorse pool is like pulling teeth.

Merriam-Webster disagree. From their 'Special' Parking Spot, they don't include the words "Paychecks" or "Endorsements" in their definition of "Sport"
 
Why so rude?

Pool will never get it's true respect because it draws more coo-coos than any sport ever.There's just to many people with no class that play this game.

Hmm... Why would you join a pool forum if this is how you feel about the game and the people who play?

If you don't see a difference between a real pro sport like football and pool then you deserve the best parking in the world because you must be retarded.Tell me how many pool players have made a million dollars this year?Can't compare real sports and pool,just not the same grade of people.:smile:

Why the hostility? Are you one of those people who couldn't cut it? Can't play... so you have to talk badly about a sport on a forum that clearly has members who love this game.

You can walk into a dirty filthy bar and the first thing you see is a pool table,not a football field or hockey arena.Pool is the last resort to some peoples wish for fame,like karaoke,but not even close.;)

Again, why join a pool forum if this is your opinion?

I didn't know you knew all walks of life.I commented on the part that you mentioned football.You can make your comments but I can't make mine.Greedy and stupid,you do deserve the good parking!:thumbup:

This has to be one of the rudest comments I have read on this forum, your future here will be short if you keep this up.


If you think pool is even in the same realm as football hockey tennis golf boxing etc than this I feel bad debating this with the mentally weak.

You can have an opinion, just state it without being rude.

If they did drug testing in pool the only people in the us open would be the card girl and maybe the janitor:thumbup:

Is this a joke? This follows a serious of inappropiate responses on a thread started by someone who issued an apology. Leave this thread alone unless you want to comment only on Grady's initial post. These types of comments just doesn't belong.
 
If you don't see a difference between a real pro sport like football and pool then you deserve the best parking in the world because you must be retarded.Tell me how many pool players have made a million dollars this year?Can't compare real sports and pool,just not the same grade of people.:smile:


You are such a dumb ass.
 
Taxi Man <-------------------Why do we waste our time responding to trolls like this ?
He wants the attention,Ignore him.
 
This is Grady's thread. If you agree or disagree with him, that's fine, its your opinion, but stay on subject and don't feed the trolls. Or start a different thread.

Proverb attributed to Spock
"Only Nixon could go to China"
 
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Which list would that be?

The list for the 14.1 tournament. I don't understand the thread is all. Did he get an invite, or did he just apologize? I wonder if Billy's thread had anything to do with it? The one about knocking people trying to promote the sport.
 
The list for the 14.1 tournament. I don't understand the thread is all. Did he get an invite, or did he just apologize? I wonder if Billy's thread had anything to do with it? The one about knocking people trying to promote the sport.

Ohhhh - I thought you were talking about the list of people that lowered their standards to make a deal with someone or something they thought was the devil.
 
Ohhhh - I thought you were talking about the list of people that lowered their standards to make a deal with someone or something they thought was the devil.

Lets see what happens come derby time. He has a lot of bad things to say about diamond.
 
I find it entertaining to,but the funny thing is,when it comes to people comparing hockey or football or baseball to pool,its an insult to other sports.You can walk into a dirty filthy bar and the first thing you see is a pool table,not a football field or hockey arena.Pool is the last resort to some peoples wish for fame,like karaoke,but not even close.;)

Cuz you can't FIT a football field or hockey arena in a bar. Duh

Although, I have seen many bars in football stadiums and hockey arenas.

Take that Mr. I hate pool! (but I spend my time on pool forums)
 
"It is never too late to give up your prejudices."
Henry David Thoreau

And I believe it was Thoreau who said that a man has the right to change his mind when circumstances warrant it.

Who knows what Grady's apology means. Hopefully it means that PEACE has broken out and war is dead. Hopefully, hopefully it means that those who formerly were at odds can work together. Hopefully it means that the young and engergetic bull can learn some patience and wisdom from the old and experienced bull. Hopefully it means that the old bull can regain some of his youthful vigor.

Hopefully it is sincerely given and sincerely accepted.

I hope it means that Grady did get an invited spot and that if so he goes into it with the spirit of competition in his mind and leaves all the politics and negativity behind.

My sincere and profound gratitude goes out to you Grady. I hope that this brings you some peace and a chance at a brighter future.

Thank you for all that you have done in pool and for pool players. Thank you some more for all that you have left to do and will do!

John Barton - Grady Mathews Fan.
 
John...My sentiments exactly! I couldn't have said it better! Thank you!

Best of luck to you Grady!:thumbup:

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

"It is never too late to give up your prejudices."
Henry David Thoreau

And I believe it was Thoreau who said that a man has the right to change his mind when circumstances warrant it.

Who knows what Grady's apology means. Hopefully it means that PEACE has broken out and war is dead. Hopefully, hopefully it means that those who formerly were at odds can work together. Hopefully it means that the young and engergetic bull can learn some patience and wisdom from the old and experienced bull. Hopefully it means that the old bull can regain some of his youthful vigor.

Hopefully it is sincerely given and sincerely accepted.

I hope it means that Grady did get an invited spot and that if so he goes into it with the spirit of competition in his mind and leaves all the politics and negativity behind.

My sincere and profound gratitude goes out to you Grady. I hope that this brings you some peace and a chance at a brighter future.

Thank you for all that you have done in pool and for pool players. Thank you some more for all that you have left to do and will do!

John Barton - Grady Mathews Fan.
 
"It is never too late to give up your prejudices."
Henry David Thoreau

And I believe it was Thoreau who said that a man has the right to change his mind when circumstances warrant it.

Who knows what Grady's apology means. Hopefully it means that PEACE has broken out and war is dead. Hopefully, hopefully it means that those who formerly were at odds can work together. Hopefully it means that the young and engergetic bull can learn some patience and wisdom from the old and experienced bull. Hopefully it means that the old bull can regain some of his youthful vigor.

Hopefully it is sincerely given and sincerely accepted.

I hope it means that Grady did get an invited spot and that if so he goes into it with the spirit of competition in his mind and leaves all the politics and negativity behind.

My sincere and profound gratitude goes out to you Grady. I hope that this brings you some peace and a chance at a brighter future.

Thank you for all that you have done in pool and for pool players. Thank you some more for all that you have left to do and will do!

John Barton - Grady Mathews Fan.

This is a good post. However, by reading Grady's posts, I'm not sure what to think of him?? Why is he flip flopping like this?
 
I find it entertaining to,but the funny thing is,when it comes to people comparing hockey or football or baseball to pool,its an insult to other sports.You can walk into a dirty filthy bar and the first thing you see is a pool table,not a football field or hockey arena.Pool is the last resort to some peoples wish for fame,like karaoke,but not even close.;)

this may be the stupidest thing I have ever read! If you have ever been to a pro baseball game the atmosphere is sometimes like a nasty filthy bar.
 
To Charlie Williams, Dragon Promotions and whomever else I may have offended:

I hereby publicly and sincerely apologize to Charlie Williams, Dragon Promotions and any sponsors I may have offended. I am also sorry for any bad things I've said about the abovementioned.
I am 100% wrong and there is no excuse for my behavior. Everyone in the billiard community has my word that this type of behavior will never happen again.
I am grateful to Charlie and Dragon Promotions for this second opportunity.
Respectfully,

Grady Mathews


Initially, the first year I funded this event, I tried, on gradys behalf to procure him an invite. There were multiple attempts from my camp. I was
sad he didn't receive an invite.

That changed quickly with gradys unsolicited,viscious, personal attacks on Dragon promotions AND it's staff. Charlie Williams. Myself AND the tournament itself.

Principally, Grady, you had fundemental grievances about the tournament, it's format, it's professionalism and it's players and more importantly, how they were selected. Paramount to this, was that you "believe in my heart" Charlie was "terrible" for our sport.

How can an invite change ALL of that? I mean, all of your other fundemental, significant differences still remain. How will you justify that in your mind without appearing to be obviously hypocritical.

Your other arguement was that you play so much better than most of the field. I can guarantee, that if you were invited, and didn't do the noble thing by respectfully declining, there will be more eyes watching and waiting to critique, good or bad, all of your performances there.

You don't have much time to "get in shape".

Fwiw, had I still been sponsoring the event, and because of the wayyou attacked me, after I tried to help you, and then considering to me that you made, what I perceived to be an anti-semetic remark, directed at me. I would have guaranteed and insisted you not be invited.

Your apology did nothing for me, Grady.
Randy
 
This is a good post. However, by reading Grady's posts, I'm not sure what to think of him?? Why is he flip flopping like this?

Could it be that maybe he's been having some private conversations with people who are in a better position to help resolve the situation or even that he is just tired of the negativity.

Grady has done a lot in pool and for pool. He has also been one of the folks in pool who is very very very outspoken when he thinks that something is wrong. As such there are plenty of folks who don't like him despite his accomplishments.

Who knows why Grady is offering an apology. I don't call it flip-flopping - I hate that term personally.

We see it all the time though that one group is critical of another and then later they announce that they are now partners. Companies, politicians, countries, and now, thanks to the internet, individuals, all play out their grievances in public to stir up public frenzy and win supporters to their cause. Sometimes this results in public pressure to bring the other side to the table. I doubt that this is the case here but perhaps they are talking and working something out.

In any event, there is the hope that it produces something positive.
 
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