When did you become a "cue maker"

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AKA Larry Vigus
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Just wanted to know at what point in your life you thought you were a "cue maker". After reading about ragu cues and making afew cues myself, I am currently on # 8,9 and 10, I was courious when you started calling your self a "cue maker". Now when someone ask, I just say I am a guy who has made a few cues.

Larry
 
As soon as I had sank so much money into machines and wood, that I couldn't afford any other hobbies!

Happy cue making,
Alan
 
At what point can you be called a cue maker? After you spend 15k on equipment? Or after you blow 3k on wood or maybe after you sell your first cue? Or is it after the divirce?
MAx
 
i think when you start to make cues your a cuemaker. shouldnt matter if you have $100k in CNC equiptment or if you use a manual panto. it also shouldnt matter if you have h1000 shafts hanging or 100.

is ron hailey less of a cuemaker bc he makes 12 cues a year then say the southwest shop that makes over 200 cues a year

obv im not fond of cuemaker/cueassembler label ect...
 
Just wanted to know at what point in your life you thought you were a "cue maker". After reading about ragu cues and making afew cues myself, I am currently on # 8,9 and 10, I was courious when you started calling your self a "cue maker". Now when someone ask, I just say I am a guy who has made a few cues.

Larry
i see larry's question as ,
when did things start to fall into place?
for me personally, it was a long road , and much more road left to travel :wink:
everyday is a learning experience
seeing others shops, thier setups and thier techniques is extremely helpful, then you have to adapt whatever you learned to your own equipment and your own comfort zone, so to speak, that is to say, what i have confidence in doing repeatedly
and that by no means, means there arent still screwups :eek:
larry, is that what the gist of your question was?
 
I'm a little old school but here's my deal
I started doing repairs and the study cue construction in 1991 as a Cueist,
I started the practice of Cue making in 1994 in what I called, Cueology,
My Customers started calling me a Cue maker in 1996. I didn't call myself one til my customers did. Things were much different yesterday.
 
I started doing tips in 1990 by hand for myself. I got started refinishing butt ends in 1993. I started doing repair work in 1994 and built my first cue in Nov of 1994. In 1995 went down and worked with Andy Gilbert and learned a lot more about building cues from him. In ealy 1996 moved back to St.Louis and have been building cues every since. Like Mike in 1996 my customers started calling me a cuemaker. So I guess that is when it was then. Nov 1994 is my anniversary date for my business. Wow I just realized that it is going to be 15 yrs in the business real soon!
 
At what point can you be called a cue maker? After you spend 15k on equipment? Or after you blow 3k on wood or maybe after you sell your first cue? Or is it after the divirce?
MAx


I guess I have along way to go. I have only spent $300 on equipment and wish my river of wood was $3,000 deep. Right now my river would barely make a yellow stream. Sold 4 cues already so guess I am covered there. My frist divorce was hasened by me spending to much time restoring cars. I hope I learned my lesson on that one!

BHQ, I just wanted to know when people here started thinking of themselves as a cue maker. Even after years of painting and restoring cars I never concidered myself as a profesional restorer. Even though my cars have been in many car magazines and had my work on the cover of one.

Think I like Mr Webb's guide the best so far. Maybe I will concider myself a cue make when customers start calling me one!

Thanks for the coments. Keep them coming!

Larry
 
I felt like a cuemaker after building my first cue. But I felt my cues were finally professional quality in my second year. That would also have been about the time I was refered to as a cuemaker instead of a cue repairman by people out at the tournaments. But most still just called me "The Cue Man." That has been over 20 years now.
 
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I officially retired from industry in 1988 at the ripe old age of 40.
I haven't punched a time card since. That's not to say I immediately started cranking out cues. There was a progression of events that led to that.
I've always owned shops of some sort. Back in the `70s, while I still lived in Detroit, I owned/operated a shop, WorkShop Mfg. that manufactured custom springer front-ends for motorcycles. In 1980, I had just been laid-off from a pretty good job at Mohawk Liqueur Corp. because the economy in Detroit was headed down-hill fast. I left Detroit and moved to the country where I reside today.

It wasn't long before I opened another shop, Aluminum Specialties, where my primary intent was to serve the marine industry. I basically did welding on boats and pontoons and machine work as needed. I still run that business to this day.

About this time of year in 1988, I was working part-time for a buddy of mine at his shop, Cummings Engineering and we were building the world's largest 3-wheeler, 'Super Trike'. 426 Hemi, blown & injected running on alcohol. Rich Cummings did the monster truck events with it and eventually sold it to a collector in Texas.
I'd been playing in leagues for a year or two and wanted a dedicated break cue. Not too far down the road from Rich's shop, in a shopping mall, was a little 3~4 table room owned by none other than Lee Malakoff.

(No offense intended Lee, but I gotta tell it if I'm going to tell the story.)

I didn't know Lee at the time but wanted to stop in and see what he had that I could use as a break cue. This is starting to get interesting, ain't it?

Well, Lee had a new Dufferin sneaky for sale and I thought that it might suit my purpose. This was the beginning of the week and I asked him if he could hold it until Friday when I got paid. He said, "sure, no problem."
Friday, I go back to his pool-room, cash in hand to get the cue and he tells me he's sold it. "I didn't know if you were coming back and I had a chance to sell it so I did". I think he sensed that I was not a happy camper so he says, "wait here". A moment later he emerged from his office with a 1pc. Dufferin cue and asked if this would work. Well, I wasn't about to truck around with a 1pc. cue on league nights but I had a machine lathe in my shop and felt I could successfully convert it to a 2pc. cue. I bought the cue, told him what I was going to do and he told me when I got it done, to come back and show it to him. I think he threw in a pin & insert in the deal. The next week, I had it done and took it back to his room to show him. After he looked it over, rolled it, etc. he asks me : "would you be interested in doing some cue work for me?"

One thing about the marine weld/machine business is that come Oct. you're sitting around twiddling because all the boats are now in storage. The lathes and mill I had were very capable of building cues, etc. so that's when I started, as a means of getting me through the winter. As soon as the league players, etc. saw the work I was doing, they started bringing me their repairs. In Jan. of 2001, I started doing all of Seybert's custom & repair work.

The ride has been a trip. I have an absolute hatred of alarm clocks & time-cards and don't have to cater to either.
Cuemaker??? Call me what you want, it doesn't matter to me. I enjoy what I do. As I've said before, I repair cues for the money. I build cues because I want to.
 
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When Laurie Franklin jacked up the price of the cues I ordered 8 1/2 years earlier and Andy Gilbert got a Jap contract and I couldn't get anything for a about 2 years ... So I said to hell with this crap and started making cues with my great friend WilleeCue ...:cool:
 
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