Dale Perry cue for sale or trade, make offer!

hdgis1 said:
Might I make a suggestion - if your not interested in the cue, don't post your wise ass comments about it. You may not like DP cues or Dale himself, all that is irrelevant with regards to Rob selling this cue. There are people who like them and recognize that these days a man has to do what a man has to do to stay in business.

Chris
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Chris, I am sure that you understand, that the comments made in this forum are expected! When someone asks for a offer, that is what they get, an offer, there is no foul in making it even if you think it is a bad one.I am sure that no one is wishing that your friend goes out of business if thats whats happening then its sad, But after all you can buy A new DP cheaper than the 200.00 that he expects, Dale even has cues in inventorey at BIN price for 149.00 for a brand new cue, and if you dont think so, just check it out for yourself, Dale will undersell you all day long and that is just a fact, Because he has to make his stones so he can pay the light bill as well.
Bob
 
How does Dale even make money selling cues for $149? Does he have little kids in India working 23 hrs a day for him or something?
 
The long game

I know Dale personally and he is a good guy. I also know why he is selling
his cues the way he is. Not saying I agree, but he has a valid point.
Now take a second to think whats gonna happen to his cues when he
either sells out, quits or dies. The cues are sound and he knows what he is
doing. Consider what is gonna happen when you can't lowball them at Ebay
anymore. I don't think there is a better investment to be had. Whats gonna happen to the prices when you can't get them for next to nothing
anymore? Just my viewpoint. I have six or seven of them and I'm just waiting.

Orion
 
BobbyC said:
Chris, I am sure that you understand, that the comments made in this forum are expected! When someone asks for a offer, that is what they get, an offer, there is no foul in making it even if you think it is a bad one.I am sure that no one is wishing that your friend goes out of business if thats whats happening then its sad, But after all you can buy A new DP cheaper than the 200.00 that he expects, Dale even has cues in inventorey at BIN price for 149.00 for a brand new cue, and if you dont think so, just check it out for yourself, Dale will undersell you all day long and that is just a fact, Because he has to make his stones so he can pay the light bill as well.
Bob
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I understand that comments/offers are going to made and I never said anything about anyone going out of business. What I did say is that it would be in good taste for one to keep their wise ass comments to themselves. I mean, come on, a salami sandwich? Is that in any way productive or contribute to the sale of a cue? I think I'm gonna take a new approach to this wanted forum - any cue going over $400 gets a negative comment from me because at 20 times the cost of materials you are simply talking highway robbery!

To All:
I haven't weighed in on the DP thing cause it seems that it has all been said. But let me ask this, do cuemakers really think a cue (of any level fresh off the lathe) is worth $3000? Sure, to some extent, if the market supports it is. But really? And as for dale selling his cues cheap - if you got burnt by the guy then you probably shouldn't have spent $3000 in the first place. Particularly since the same cue you bought is really only worth $200. Finally, Dale isn't in business to keep the collectors happy, he's in business to sell a decent cue at a decent price.

Chris
 
Orion said:
I know Dale personally and he is a good guy. I also know why he is selling
his cues the way he is. Not saying I agree, but he has a valid point.
Now take a second to think whats gonna happen to his cues when he
either sells out, quits or dies. The cues are sound and he knows what he is
doing. Consider what is gonna happen when you can't lowball them at Ebay
anymore. I don't think there is a better investment to be had. Whats gonna happen to the prices when you can't get them for next to nothing
anymore? Just my viewpoint. I have six or seven of them and I'm just waiting.

Orion
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you're just waiting? for your buddy to die?

when people can't buy them on ebay people won't buy them. they'll either buy production cues or spend money on another custom cue maker
 
poolplayer2093 said:
Man now that's rough! this poor guy comes on here trying to sell a DP for what he thought was a reasonable price and then DP comes in and undercuts his price
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It's really to bad.For the money you can't beat a DP.It's a lot of work for the money that's for sure!I'm sure you'll find a buyer for your cue!Good luck with your sale.
 
uwate said:
How does Dale even make money selling cues for $149? Does he have little kids in India working 23 hrs a day for him or something?
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I honestly dont know how Dale can sell them that cheap but he does,Maybe it just a way of him promoting his cues,I live in the Tampa bay area an have seen Dales shop,There where several people working for him when I was there.And I dont have any complaints with the cues I bought from him, they hit just fine,the fit an finish is also excellent,And If you have a problem he will take care of it,One of the ones I bought was eboney an rosewood an when it was delivered the shaft had several bad nicks,I called him right away shipped it to him an he took care of me,The only point I was making befor was he sells them so cheap you cant compete with him, and it keeps the resale value low on his cues,I was in no way intending to start any crap on here. I also didnt read the one about the salami sandwich untill later,If I offended any one I apologise .
BobbyC
 
Mass Sale...vs....traditional custom cue selling...

At first I was pissed at Dale for selling his cues so cheap. Then, I thought, heck, he makes em, and sells 5-8 or so a week, I guess its working for him cause he still does it. I guess its better to sell then cheap, lots of them, then to ask 250-300 and sell 1 or none a week.

Anyway, his cues shoot great and are cheap, so anyone looking for a great playing cue, cheap should pick one up.

I have one, paid 200 for it (ahem..).. and another I just paid 100 shipped for.

Felix
 
hdgis1 said:
I understand that comments/offers are going to made and I never said anything about anyone going out of business. What I did say is that it would be in good taste for one to keep their wise ass comments to themselves. I mean, come on, a salami sandwich? Is that in any way productive or contribute to the sale of a cue? I think I'm gonna take a new approach to this wanted forum - any cue going over $400 gets a negative comment from me because at 20 times the cost of materials you are simply talking highway robbery!

To All:
I haven't weighed in on the DP thing cause it seems that it has all been said. But let me ask this, do cuemakers really think a cue (of any level fresh off the lathe) is worth $3000? Sure, to some extent, if the market supports it is. But really? And as for dale selling his cues cheap - if you got burnt by the guy then you probably shouldn't have spent $3000 in the first place. Particularly since the same cue you bought is really only worth $200. Finally, Dale isn't in business to keep the collectors happy, he's in business to sell a decent cue at a decent price.

Chris
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Dale isn't in business to keep the collectors happy, he's in business to sell a decent cue at a decent price.

That is not how he started out, he started out selling Medium to High end Collector cues, many were $1000+. and he had a fair market for them. Then he upgraded his equipment, and started dumping his cues on the market through eBay, now that is his right, but to many he is nothing but a sell out.

As for as the comment about the Sandwich is concerned it is no more disrespectful than fishing for a high price for an inexpensive cue here on AZ Billiards is. I am sorry your friend got stuck with that cue, and I hope he finds a buyer but the cue is what it is and that is nothing special and not a value for the asking price.
 
ArizonaPete said:
"If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all!". This guy is trying to sell his cue. Making fun by offering ridiculous bids is assinine.
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.- Since Dale Perry himself is selling his cues for $ 150.00 NIB and with a certificate, a $ 75 offer for a used one doesn't sound so ridiculous.



Too many wise guys on this forum


.- Well, sorry to tell you this but actually they are wise.
 
Just outta curiousity...what was so different about the pre 'sellout' cues and the ones he is selling now? Did they hit 8 times better or just have the mystique about them that allows must 'custom' cue makers to sell their cues for ridiculously high prices?

Chris
 
Dales cues these days are no more custom then cuetec cues are.I wouldn't buy 1 of his cues for more then $75.00 and thats stretching it.
 
Can we put this to rest!!! Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!

This whole DP saga is silly and getting really old. All the negative points people bring up about dale's cues is actually irrelevant. If anyone bithced at me for changing MY business model to better suit MY goals by offering a better value to clients I would seriously question thier intelect.

Made a bad investment? Fell on the wrong side of the supply curve? Oh well! If the oppisite were true and you made a profit because he raised his price would you call him out to return some of that money to him? And, those that liked the cue at 1500 bucks should really love it at 200. NO?


Fact: Dale makes one of the best sub $200 cues. Period.
Fact: Dale, by and large, has shown great customer service
Let's fault him and other's that sell his cues in the secondary market for it. That makes sense.

Now, the main gripe is that he undercut his dealers. I see a lot of people complaining but how many of you actually were in the business of flipping his cues? I would guess 3 of you, maybe 5. Yet you assert he has dammed the entire pool community. Moreso, I do not see those "dealers" bashing him like the rest of you do. Interesting.

Let us look at it on one last view. Let us rewind about 7 years ago to pre-ebay days. Let's say dale is sitting around thinking I got debt, I need to support my family, and I need to think about my future. Geez, health insurance for my family is $1,000 a month alone. But you know what, I really love what I do. I love making cues and I don't want to do anything else.

I think you follow me so far....

Then a consultant walks in and says, "Dale, I have studies your books. I have analyzed your business model and I found away for you to increase profits my 100%. You can now afford to pay for Health Insurance, support your family, pay off debts, and save for retirement. All you need to do is stop using exotic components, cut out the middle man, hire and train less expensive labor, produce more cues, and lower your prices dramaticlly".

"you mean I could sell great hitting cues at a lower price, put these into more hands, and be better off financially"?

Yes! But there is a catch. A few people on a internet pool forum will b#tch and complain about it.


Grow the F up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Hmm...

I tell ya.. I have loved each and every DP cue I have had.

Best cue for the bucks I have seen in a while!

Felix
 
Well said :thumbup2:
prewarhero said:
This whole DP saga is silly and getting really old. All the negative points people bring up about dale's cues is actually irrelevant. If anyone bithced at me for changing MY business model to better suit MY goals by offering a better value to clients I would seriously question thier intelect.

Made a bad investment? Fell on the wrong side of the supply curve? Oh well! If the oppisite were true and you made a profit because he raised his price would you call him out to return some of that money to him? And, those that liked the cue at 1500 bucks should really love it at 200. NO?


Fact: Dale makes one of the best sub $200 cues. Period.
Fact: Dale, by and large, has shown great customer service
Let's fault him and other's that sell his cues in the secondary market for it. That makes sense.

Now, the main gripe is that he undercut his dealers. I see a lot of people complaining but how many of you actually were in the business of flipping his cues? I would guess 3 of you, maybe 5. Yet you assert he has dammed the entire pool community. Moreso, I do not see those "dealers" bashing him like the rest of you do. Interesting.

Let us look at it on one last view. Let us rewind about 7 years ago to pre-ebay days. Let's say dale is sitting around thinking I got debt, I need to support my family, and I need to think about my future. Geez, health insurance for my family is $1,000 a month alone. But you know what, I really love what I do. I love making cues and I don't want to do anything else.

I think you follow me so far....

Then a consultant walks in and says, "Dale, I have studies your books. I have analyzed your business model and I found away for you to increase profits my 100%. You can now afford to pay for Health Insurance, support your family, pay off debts, and save for retirement. All you need to do is stop using exotic components, cut out the middle man, hire and train less expensive labor, produce more cues, and lower your prices dramaticlly".

"you mean I could sell great hitting cues at a lower price, put these into more hands, and be better off financially"?

Yes! But there is a catch. A few people on a internet pool forum will b#tch and complain about it.


Grow the F up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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