Fancy Cues Hit Bad?

ace911

ace911

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I was always curious, what do you guys think about fancy cues hitting bad? For example like a 10 pointed with a lot of inlays. A lot of people think the less pieces in the cue the more solid it will be. But if the cue is made well does it really matter? Thanks
 
Your last sentence sums it up, IMO. The cue architecture matters too.

Martin


ace911 said:
I was always curious, what do you guys think about fancy cues hitting bad? For example like a 10 pointed with a lot of inlays. A lot of people think the less pieces in the cue the more solid it will be. But if the cue is made well does it really matter? Thanks
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ace911 said:
I was always curious, what do you guys think about fancy cues hitting bad? For example like a 10 pointed with a lot of inlays. A lot of people think the less pieces in the cue the more solid it will be. But if the cue is made well does it really matter? Thanks
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Inlays will not contribute to the cue hitting bad or change the "feel" of the hit....it all all comes down to construction. If the cue is put together poorly, it will hit poorly. Personally I'm a minimalist. I do not like a ton of inlays, a few tasetfull ones are ok.
 
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its a debate thats been brewing for some time. some makers feel more wood plays more solid. some feel epoxt and splices stiffen the cue up. could go either way. truth is all cues play different. sometimes you find lightning. everything fell together perfect. sometimes "for lack of a better term" for get a lemon. by lemon i mean just average. not amazing.

all you can do is keep your tolerances tight take your time and make the best cue you can. most of the time it will be ok.
 
The simpler the cue's construction, the less that can go wrong. But whether it is plain or if it has lots of inlays etc, 1 loose part will make it not hit very well at all.
A fancy cue that does not hit well is because something was not up to scratch. It could be construction technique, or as said before the cue's architechture.
 
A few inlays are decorations on the outside of the cue like a veneer or skin. They don't affect anything in a cue.
If a cue is completely covered from the joint to the wrap with inlays I could see the tone of the cue being affected. Who's to say it helps or hurts the tone.
Points, full splice, rings, and other decorations that involves cutting into the structure of the cue will change the way the cue feels more so then inlays. These will create big problems if the builder doesn't execute them properly.

I personally have never witnessed a point or inlay fail. I have looked at many cues with cracks in the clear that show signs of loose glue joints or flexing at that point of the cue. I think glue joints and ring work are the most common weak point in cues. Every cue has these connecting points fancy or not.
 
Hi
More inlays wont change the anything feel.

It means if we can have few High End cues to try it at the same time then we have different feel...........

I dont that before, Gina still Gina, SW still SW,

sammi
 
ace911 said:
I was always curious, what do you guys think about fancy cues hitting bad? For example like a 10 pointed with a lot of inlays. A lot of people think the less pieces in the cue the more solid it will be. But if the cue is made well does it really matter? Thanks
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Here is the problem, if a cuemaker has so much time and cost vested in a cue it will never be discarded. Unless it is full of buzzes it will be offered up for sale regardless if it actually plays like shi!
 
An example of a fancy cue that plays inferior to a simple cue would be the following example. Take a impregnated Snakewood forearm and core it out. Load it up with inlays and put an ivory handle in it. Now it will not play like a maple cue, but looks out of this world fancy. Unless you want a flat hitting low cue ball action 22 ounce cue, that cue will play inferior to a maple 19 ounce cue in my opinion. So to use certain wood combinations you wind up sacrificing a little on the hit for the look you are wanting.
I personally do not like the way non-cored ebony plays as well as maple plays. Yet a huge percentage of my multi-thousand dollar cues have been Ebony forearms loaded with ivory. But more than one buyer have sworn they were the best playing cues they had ever owned. But I know for a fact I could have had them drawing the cue ball farther and such with one of my maple cues. So what plays good and plays bad is still decided in the hand of the player.
 
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Here is the problem, if a cuemaker has so much time and cost vested in a cue it will never be discarded. Unless it is full of buzzes it will be offered up for sale regardless if it actually plays like shi!
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Hmmm...I heard that some guy in in the sunshine state with a REALLLLY long wait list handles similar situations a little differently. And while his potential/future customers may have to pay a price (time) because of his tolerances, i seriously doubt anyone who acquires a cue from him will ever be in the above quoted scenario.
 
Yesssssssss!!

That has to be the famous Mr D cues you are referring to. As I and many others wait and wait patiently.....
Dan
 
Who can predict the future :eek: Inlays , for the most part are so shallow that they don't effect the hit to any extent that most people can feel . The shaft makes a cue , the butt is just something you screw onto it :cool: Granted the tip is the most discerning material followed by the ferrel , and taper all warrant how it will feel and play ... Seasoned wood and quality construction insure a solid finished product ... The rest is a pissing contest :mad::boring2:
 
"The shaft makes a cue , the butt is just something you screw onto it "

One of the more simplistically inane statements that comes up too frequently...
 
Oh I forgot to mention that if you don't shoot the balls in the hole , you don't get paid ... The previous poster obviously doesn't get it ... period ... It's different strokes for different folks ... Some guys buy nice looking cues and can't make 2 balls in a row , and don't have a clue how to make a cue or much less play with it , still America ...Right? ... Who really cares besides the afore NPT ...:eek:
 
I get that if you expect to put a high class engine in a Chevy Vega & hit the corners at 160 mph, you won't make it far.
I don't make cues, no - but I get it...trust me. And yes - I can make a ball or two in a row. I'm no expert in how you truly talented guys make it happen, but I am well capable of feeling & seeing that there's a hell of a lot more to the end product's performance than just a shaft, and I've spent a good bit of time discussing exactly those issues with some pretty darn fine makers.
So when you talk about me in terms of "he don't get it"...you need to check that crap - AND the propensity to look down your nose at those who don't make cues (as if that infers they know nothing about them at all) - at the door.
 
Shot, I like this one: Some guys buy nice looking cues and can't make 2 balls in a row.

True, I saw it, its unbelieveable what courage to make that guy turn out the money to make that happen!!!!

sammi

Play cue: Old DP
Break cue: BillMC J/B
Case: TAD 2/4
Collection: Bert schrager
 
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