Veneers?

a9ballbr8k

a9ballbr8k

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I have a question. I have seen veneers where they meet at the top of the points as if they are split right down the middle. I've also seen them where they meet at a skewed angle. From what I know, mitered veneers are basically cut and folded at a 90 degree angle. Can somebody explain the construction technique to the other ones? I can provide pics if this is hard to understand but I'm not sure how to explain.
 
You pretty much have It correct, one style is mitered on angles, and the other style is a standard butt joint where one end is simply butted up against the edge of the other veneer.
 
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The two techniques you described are mitered and stacked. Stacked is when one veneer is "stacked" perpendicular to the other to form a 90 degree.


<~~~the word "perpendicular" makes me giggle a little....:grin-square:
 
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ratcues said:
The two techniques you described are mitered and stacked. Stacked is when one veneer is "stacked" perpendicular to the other to form a 90 degree.


<~~~the word "perpendicular" makes me giggle a little....:grin-square:
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Which method is the industry standard? Or does it matter which method one uses?
 
ratcues said:
The two techniques you described are mitered and stacked. Stacked is when one veneer is "stacked" perpendicular to the other to form a 90 degree.


<~~~the word "perpendicular" makes me giggle a little....:grin-square:
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I always wondered why It was called stacked, Technically aren't both styles stacked veneers?
 
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Well....there is no industry standard but in my opinion, stacked veneers are easier to do and the mitered are more impressive when done right.
 
Cue Crazy said:
I always wondered why It was called stacked, Technically aren't both styles stacked veneers?
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I always thought of them as stacked becasue you stack them around your point stock one side and one color at a time. I know what you mean though, they are both kind of stacked.
 
ratcues said:
Well....there is no industry standard but in my opinion, stacked veneers are easier to do and the mitered are more impressive when done right.
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I agree with "The Rat". To add a little though, stacked are easier to do and always look good when finished. Mitered, on the other hand look exceptional when done right but don't look good at all if not done well. Stacked is putting your money in a bank, mitered is playing the lottery. One is a safe bet with known return while the other is a gamble but if won you get a greater return.

Dick
 
Anybody have pics of construction of the stacked ones? I've seen mitred done as this is the type used with the cues I order. Thanks in advance.
 
i did some stacked veneers early on but i dont have pics. i also feel like i cut corners on them cues. you get the feeling of pride when you pull off the mitered version. thats why i spend 1200$ or whatever for the right equipt to get them miters perfect

i will snap a pic of stacked one when i get home.
 
Here's a pic of an old original Ginacue with stacked veneers:

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All answers are appreciated. One thing I cannot picture...so I know with mitered veneers when they are cut and folded they form a 90 degree angle that fits perfect into the forearm cutout. I can't seem to picture how the stacked would fit into the point groove and be perfectly formed to the groove unless those parts are mitred also to fit tight.

egumicate me yall LOL.
 
a9ballbr8k said:
All answers are appreciated. One thing I cannot picture...so I know with mitered veneers when they are cut and folded they form a 90 degree angle that fits perfect into the forearm cutout. I can't seem to picture how the stacked would fit into the point groove and be perfectly formed to the groove unless those parts are mitred also to fit tight.

egumicate me yall LOL.
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Think about it. The point groove should be a perfect 90 deg V. To fill it you take a piece of material and plane or sand so that it is a perfect 90 deg square and fits perfectly in the channel that you had cut. You now just glue the veneers on the sides, one at a time on two opposing sides. when the glue is dry you plane the excess edges off back down to the original square and now do the other two sides. You keep this process going until you have as many veneers as you want on your original piece of wood.

The process is almost fool proof.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
Think about it. The point groove should be a perfect 90 deg V. To fill it you take a piece of material and plane or sand so that it is a perfect 90 deg square and fits perfectly in the channel that you had cut. You now just glue the veneers on the sides, one at a time on two opposing sides. when the glue is dry you plane the excess edges off back down to the original square and now do the other two sides. You keep this process going until you have as many veneers as you want on your original piece of wood.

The process is almost fool proof.

Dick
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Mr. Neighbors, thank you for the reply. My brain is so fried from school I was having a hard time with the thought process, or any process for that matter, at the moment. I'm going to bed after a night full of schoolwork! Thank you for the responses. If anyone has pics mid-construction I would love to see them...provided you aren't giving away any trade secrets ;)
 
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF STACKED. NOTICE THE "MITER" RUNS UP THE SIDE INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE...

WHILE IT DOESNT LOOK GOD AWFUL ITS NOT THE RIGHT WAY IMO

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dave sutton said:
HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF STACKED. NOTICE THE "MITER" RUNS UP THE SIDE INSTEAD OF DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE...

WHILE IT DOESNT LOOK GOD AWFUL ITS NOT THE RIGHT WAY IMO

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I disagree...........it does look God awful and it is not the proper way to do miters.



<~~~thinks they should be 45'd or not done at all.............
 
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