snooker or pool?

sneaky_russian

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Hi guys
I've got a question for you:
I play pool all the time.If I switch it for snooker for a couple of months will I improve my pool technique?And do I have to get a snooker cue for that?
Thanks
 
I play both games and what usually happens at pool is I lose the cue ball for a bit but my potting is very strong, an hour or so of practice and it comes back.
 
Hi guys
I've got a question for you:
I play pool all the time.If I switch it for snooker for a couple of months will I improve my pool technique?And do I have to get a snooker cue for that?
Thanks

Playing snooker can help focus your attention on potting (making balls). If there are flaws in your stroke or in your aiming technique, you'll find out soon enough.

Your pool game may benefit from the safety play you learn from snooker, especially if you make a point (as you should) of matching up with experienced snooker players.

Do you have to get a snooker cue? No. Is it a good idea? I'd say yes if you have the money to spare and intend to take the game seriously. If you were only going to play once a week for a few months as a sort of experiment then perhaps the expenditure wouldn't be worth it.
 
Thank you very much guys!
I've met a very good snooker player a couple days ago at a local pool hall (Stratford ON,Canada).I've seen him scoring 50+ points.So I guess I have a good partner. =)
 
Congrats. I'm sure the snooker bug will hit, once you start playing a bit. The thrill of making a stun-run-thru all the way across the table will never go away.
Wish there were 50+ players in my area though....
 
Hi guys
I've got a question for you:
I play pool all the time.If I switch it for snooker for a couple of months will I improve my pool technique?And do I have to get a snooker cue for that?
Thanks
Yes and Yes. If I had room for a table I would have a table. I am assembling a 10 footer in my parents house. I would rather play snooker than pool if I had a choice.
 
I play both games and what usually happens at pool is I lose the cue ball for a bit but my potting is very strong, an hour or so of practice and it comes back.

i play both also same experience moving the snooker ball and the cue ball is diffrent. the snooker helps my stroke and focus i just do it for practice.
i play with the same cue, going back to pool the cue ball takes a min to get back control of.
 
I would highly suggest getting a seperate cue for snooker. If you don't want to spend the money, then use a house cue if they aren't too crappy.

The smaller tip makes it much easier to perform force follow and draw shots. If you can't draw the cue ball back two table widths, straight in on the black is usually end of break.
 
Your pool game may benefit from the safety play you learn from snooker, especially if you make a point (as you should) of matching up with experienced snooker players.

I agree with all of the posters in this thread, except for the above statement. Snooker's safety game is very one-dimensional and nowhere near as intricate as that required for games like nine-ball or one pocket. Every snooker player in the world could improve their safety by spending a few days a week playing pool.
 
I hope someone else finds this interesting...

I agree with all of the posters in this thread, except for the above statement. Snooker's safety game is very one-dimensional and nowhere near as intricate as that required for games like nine-ball or one pocket. Every snooker player in the world could improve their safety by spending a few days a week playing pool.

I'm not too familiar with one pocket (I've seen a little but not really enough to comment here) but I'll go ahead and disagree with you on snooker and nine-ball.

I don't see how you could think safety in snooker is 'nowhere near as intricate' as in nine-ball - snooker is generally a more complex game all around and this would include safety in my opinion.

It might look at the start of the frame like they're just lagging the cue ball to the end rail each time, but this really isn't the case. They're often blocking off avenues back to the baulk end when they leave their opponent a clear shot at a red, placing the cue ball in a specific area to achieve this. You'll see any number of complicated escapes from snookers if you watch for long enough, from straightforward rolls into the pack to glancing escapes off two cushions, bringing the white back to baulk, or coming off three or four cushions to nestle up to a ball and leave no shot.

The score becomes another factor in how many shots are played. With a large lead and a bunch of reds on the cushion, the leading player will try to tie up balls and put colours out of commission, while the trailing player aims to open everything up without giving up a shot. Players simultaneously playing the same set of balls with different goals results in greater tactical depth, and this can also be said for one-pocket.

In nine-ball you're more likely to see the incoming player snookered after a safe but it's the nature of the game that this is easier to accomplish, with distance being less of a factor than in snooker and with both players always shooting at the same ball.

When all the reds are on the table a player has more options to choose from, which (like straight pool) does not mean you can expect to just shoot any ball and be successful. If a frame reaches the point where only the colours are left and the frame is still 'alive', you'll have a situation like in nine-ball where there is only one ball to be played, but it's usually the case that one player will need more of the remaining balls than the other, again adding another element to the shot selection of both players. Exchanges in nine-ball are generally very short; safety definitely plays a bigger part in snooker.

Then there are 'shots-to-nothing' where a player can go for a ball, leaving himself a shot if it goes in and leaving his opponent nothing if he misses. These can be very creative, and are just another example of shots that do not feature quite so much in a rotation game like nine-ball.

With more balls on the table to choose from and a points system to consider, tactical play in snooker will always be more complex than in nine-ball...and just sending the cue ball anywhere down the other end of the table simply won't cut it.
 
I play all of the games mentioned in this thread.

Therefore I will also chime in.

I LOVE Snooker.
I LOVE Pool.

Nine ball is nowhere near as intricate as snooker when it comes to safety.
The shot to nothing is a shot that does come up in nine ball a lot.
You shoot a ball, hoping to make it. You go up table for the next shot, behind another ball, but miss.
The opponent still has no shot on the missed shot, very possibly.
I see this type of shot quite often.


Eight ball is a little more difficult than nine ball.

However, I think One Pocket is the best of them all.
You each have one of the corner pockets at the foot rail to make balls in.
Most of the balls are down by the pockets and you try to keep the opponent from making them in his assigned pocket.
That makes the safety play in One Pocket very precise.

When I play a lot of One Pocket, my other games also improve.

That is why I think One Pocket is the best, without going into minute details on how to play the game.

IMHO
 
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I think relatively speaking shots-to-nothing do not feature anywhere near as often in nine-ball as they do in snooker.

Over the last couple of days I've been watching the 1996 $100,000 challenge between Strickland and Reyes, and at nearly 200 racks played there have probably been a handful of these shots.

For anyone who hasn't seen this match, it can be found here:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay...BA&q=strickland+reyes&hl=en&client=firefox-a#

Nine-ball is not my favourite game to watch, and certainly the short races do nothing for me, but this match really is worth watching!
 
I'm not too familiar with one pocket (I've seen a little but not really enough to comment here) but I'll go ahead and disagree with you on snooker and nine-ball.

I don't see how you could think safety in snooker is 'nowhere near as intricate' as in nine-ball - snooker is generally a more complex game all around and this would include safety in my opinion.

It might look at the start of the frame like they're just lagging the cue ball to the end rail each time, but this really isn't the case. They're often blocking off avenues back to the baulk end when they leave their opponent a clear shot at a red, placing the cue ball in a specific area to achieve this. You'll see any number of complicated escapes from snookers if you watch for long enough, from straightforward rolls into the pack to glancing escapes off two cushions, bringing the white back to baulk, or coming off three or four cushions to nestle up to a ball and leave no shot.

The score becomes another factor in how many shots are played. With a large lead and a bunch of reds on the cushion, the leading player will try to tie up balls and put colours out of commission, while the trailing player aims to open everything up without giving up a shot. Players simultaneously playing the same set of balls with different goals results in greater tactical depth, and this can also be said for one-pocket.

In nine-ball you're more likely to see the incoming player snookered after a safe but it's the nature of the game that this is easier to accomplish, with distance being less of a factor than in snooker and with both players always shooting at the same ball.

When all the reds are on the table a player has more options to choose from, which (like straight pool) does not mean you can expect to just shoot any ball and be successful. If a frame reaches the point where only the colours are left and the frame is still 'alive', you'll have a situation like in nine-ball where there is only one ball to be played, but it's usually the case that one player will need more of the remaining balls than the other, again adding another element to the shot selection of both players. Exchanges in nine-ball are generally very short; safety definitely plays a bigger part in snooker.

Then there are 'shots-to-nothing' where a player can go for a ball, leaving himself a shot if it goes in and leaving his opponent nothing if he misses. These can be very creative, and are just another example of shots that do not feature quite so much in a rotation game like nine-ball.

With more balls on the table to choose from and a points system to consider, tactical play in snooker will always be more complex than in nine-ball...and just sending the cue ball anywhere down the other end of the table simply won't cut it.

I'm sorry but you're just wrong about this. You also seem to be assuming I'm a person who bases what I say on just watching a little snooker - I'm not. I run consistent centuries and my highest break is 147. I've also played pro nine ball and I can tell you that in terms of 'general billiard knowledge' pool players have way more of it than snooker players. They move the cue ball better and have a much wider array of shots.

If you watch good players trying to play each others' games you can see this quite well. Snooker players rarely have any problem with the potting when they try and play pool, but when it comes to safety they really, really struggle. However, the reverse is the case when pool players play snooker - they really have no problem with the 'moving' but just get out potted more often than not.

Now you can believe me or not but I'm telling you - if you want to improve your knowledge of the game and your safety as a snooker player - play some pool!
 
Personally, I've found snooker to be far more challenging than 8/9/10 ball from any angle including safety techniques. However, the only most simplistic safe play in snooker is to simply touch the OB to create a snooker without having any balls to touch rails.
 
....... when pool players play snooker - they really have no problem with the 'moving' but just get out potted more often than not.

because it takes far more skill to play at the top level of snooker than at the top level of pool. Thats obvious to a blind man, just tell him the size of the table and the pockets.


Now you can believe me or not but I'm telling you - if you want to improve your knowledge of the game and your safety as a snooker player - play some pool!

How many l's in bollocks?
 
However, the reverse is the case when pool players play snooker - they really have no problem with the 'moving' but just get out potted more often than not.

Sorry but if you think "moving" for pool players at snooker is no problem then you need to get out more as maybe top level safety is not an area you fully understand. "Moving" is not just about 2 cushions return to balk, there are as many facets as pool.
I have yet to see a pool player that can accurately hit thin balls with varying degrees of english over that distance. Playing 3-4 cushions onto balls at the top end from balk and getting safe is no mean feat, neither are two cushion glances and returning to balk. No the safety game is equally as difficult just different.
 
I'm sorry but you're just wrong about this. You also seem to be assuming I'm a person who bases what I say on just watching a little snooker - I'm not. I run consistent centuries and my highest break is 147.

Then you must be a snooker player? Who did you beat? I ask because pool players do not run consistent centuries at snooker...unless we have a different understanding of the word 'consistent'.

A few months ago I had a small chat with Tony Drago at Duffel, Belgium where European snooker championships were held this year. I specifically asked him whether any pool players play decent snooker. He flat out said 'No'. He gives around 60 point handicap if they want to play. Corey Deuel tried and let's just say he didn't have a chance...
But I was persistant and wanted to hear from Tony what he thought of Corey's snooker game, did he show any promise, etc... He said 'he can make a 20 break'. Go figure.
 
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