Shane vs. Donnie question

[BlaineBarcus]

Im not sure what the score was exactly when shane started breaking hard but lets say it was at about 68 64 (donnie)...which means shane won 36 games to donnie's 15 to win the match......what do you think would have happened if shane just went ahead and broke hard the whole match and played his own game instead of donnie's.......Im thinking it would have been a blowout

 

[Wazuela]

It was disgusting watching Shane soft break over and over again without making a ball on the break. Donny was so consistent making the wing ball in the corner with the same layout --1, 2, and 3 ball coming up table, 4 staying by the side and usually the 7 & 8 in the same pocket as the wing ball.
I think Shane was trying to mimic his break, even checking his rack several times. But as the match progressed, Shane was missing the wing ball bad, by like half a diamond at times.
You could tell he was trying to achieve the same results as Donny on the break, but I guess he couldn't figure it out.

Once Shane started hitting them hard, he was making the same wing ball as Donny almost every time. Sometimes the opposite wing ball would hit the rail and go in the opposite side.
It was really exciting watching Shane break the balls this way. Such explosiveness! He really livened up quite a bit.

 

[ARROWCRUSHER]

YEP. it was almost the same layout every break, some times it was a hell of a cut up in the corner for the one ball , but he made it. I kept thinking man it's like dejuavue,,,,,,I think I seen this before...LOL. <<ED

 

[donny mills]

Im not sure what the score was exactly when shane started breaking hard but lets say it was at about 68 64 (donnie)...which means shane won 36 games to donnie's 15 to win the match......what do you think would have happened if shane just went ahead and broke hard the whole match and played his own game instead of donnie's.......Im thinking it would have been a blowout

Wow lmao!... I'll tell you what... The stipulation is shane has to break hard like he did towards the end of the match and I will play him a race to 150. Here is the best part- you can stake him and I will lay you a price on the money.

 

[real bartram]

Wow lmao!... I'll tell you what... The stipulation is shane has to break hard like he did towards the end of the match and I will play him a race to 150. Here is the best part- you can stake him and I will lay you a price on the money.

yep donny you are right.
i think the whole sit got to you.
if he plays this game every day he will be working at your car lot.
the thing is i dont think he will play you again.

 

[JB Cases]

Wow lmao!... I'll tell you what... The stipulation is shane has to break hard like he did towards the end of the match and I will play him a race to 150. Here is the best part- you can stake him and I will lay you a price on the money.

Well...... he came to your house and played your game and beat you.

So now you should go to his place and play some ten ball.

Or play him some barbox 8 ball.

I mean Shane plays all games so pick one other than the one you play best and just got beat at.

Kudos to you for perfecting your rack and break. You have that move down cold - better than anyone I have ever seen.

How well does it work with a neutral racker?

You play really smooth. But you are nowhere close to Shane's speed in my opinion. I didn't bet this one because I consider the whole stipulation with the rack your own to be a gaff on your part and to me it was. In any other game my money is on Shane all the way. Congrats to Shane for outrunning the nuts.

I don't know why you seem to think you would beat him if you made the race longer. You might beat him in any race to any length if you get that break going and keep getting the easy layouts. But, then again, making the wing ball 80+ times and seeing the one ball in the corner most of those times didn't get your there so why do you think that you would have a better shot at 150?

Anyway I have $100 that says you don't go to SD to play him some 10 ball for anything over $5000 a man.

 

[Tommy-D]

> I think the thing that won this match for SVB is the fact that he isn't hard-headed.

Donny,that is one of the most amazing stats I've ever heard in my nearly 20 years around the game. The corner ball on the break 82 out of 83 times? :yikes:

That my friend is truly disgusting .

No wonder you offered this game! Other than him and a few other people in the world,you'd bust the whole planet . Mad props to you. Tommy D.

 

[JAM]

... Kudos to you for perfecting your rack and break. You have that move down cold - better than anyone I have ever seen....

Hey, I just got an idea. We could have a Rack Your Own Championship.

Forget about pocketing balls. Let's just watch the players rack and break the entire time.

Yeah, that's the ticket! :grin:

[just joking]

Even though Mills may be the best racker in the industry, he's still got game. This year's U.S. Open proved that. :wink:

 

[Scott Lee]

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Why can't you just show some class, and say "Yeah, we both played great, but Shane played a little better THIS time!"...rather than your comment. You're obviously a great player, but learn to be a graceful loser too. I guarantee Shane would be...as he has shown many times already.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Wow lmao!... I'll tell you what... The stipulation is shane has to break hard like he did towards the end of the match and I will play him a race to 150. Here is the best part- you can stake him and I will lay you a price on the money.

 

[MOJOE]

SVB is still the American to beat for the cash!!

I've gotta agree with Scott on this one.. Take your beating like a champion with class respect. In all fairness, Shane played lights out once he gave up on trying to play Donny's game and broke the balls like he normally does.. The match became much more enjoyable to watch too..

Donny had chances at towards the end but Shane simply made fewer mistakes and more B&R's.. I thought his charge at the end was exciting.. Shane played DM's rules, game at DM's home pool room and won! That's pretty stout in my book.

Not taking away anything from DM's game but Shane was the man once again this weekend. Thanks to TAR for a my favorite match yet. Congrats to Shane as well..

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Why can't you just show some class, and say "Yeah, we both played great, but Shane played a little better THIS time!"...rather than your comment. You're obviously a great player, but learn to be a graceful loser too. I guarantee Shane would be...as he has shown many times already.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

 

[satman]

Exactly

Hey, I just got an idea. We could have a Rack Your Own Championship.

Forget about pocketing balls. Let's just watch the players rack and break the entire time.

Yeah, that's the ticket! :grin:

[just joking]

Even though Mills may be the best racker in the industry, he's still got game. This year's U.S. Open proved that. :wink:

Did he get to rack his own at the Open? I don't think so. Seems to me he did pretty well. If the worst match I ever lost, was getting beat by SVB, I wouldn't be too ashamed of it. Face it, there are very few who even want to get in the box with Shane. Then take away all those guys who play so well on OPM {other people's money} and see how many you have left. Not too many. Maybe he has found a niche with rack your own, that makes him more competitive. but how many pool players do you know, who ain't always looking for an edge?

 

[mrmagoo42]

Looked like Shane wanted to match up with a soft break.

But soon realized Donnie had it perfected. Frustration was becoming apparent (but the Earl comparisons were over the top) so when he decided to let his stroke out WOW!
Yes, Shane would have dominated a "no soft break" match IMO.

 

[The Grinder]

?????????

Well...... he came to your house and played your game and beat you.

So now you should go to his place and play some ten ball.

Or play him some barbox 8 ball.

I mean Shane plays all games so pick one other than the one you play best and just got beat at.

Kudos to you for perfecting your rack and break. You have that move down cold - better than anyone I have ever seen.

How well does it work with a neutral racker?

You play really smooth. But you are nowhere close to Shane's speed in my opinion. I didn't bet this one because I consider the whole stipulation with the rack your own to be a gaff on your part and to me it was. In any other game my money is on Shane all the way. Congrats to Shane for outrunning the nuts.


Anyway I have $100 that says you don't go to SD to play him some 10 ball for anything over $5000 a man.

It would appear that it works well enough with a neutral racker to get third in the open and go 11-10 and 11-10 against the defending champ and some other bum.

 

[Black-Balled]

Well.....

...you are nowhere close to Shane's speed in my opinion... Congrats to Shane for outrunning the nuts...

Props to Donny for getting up. He said he'd play and did. It appears he lost. Wish I played good enough to lose like that.

I bet SVB had a plan. He tried to mimic the breakshot that has proved so effective, didn't work, so he commenced with the whuppin the way he knowed how.

 

[Wazuela]

Even though I was cheering for SVB to win, I give Donny mad props for stepping up to the challenge.

You've got to admit, Donnys got a big set of balls!
How many people do you see playing Shane in these long races? Let me see....... not many. On TAR there's been Pagulayan, Deuel; big name players with many titles under their belt.

What if the race were only to 50? Even though they cut Day 1 short, I bet Donny would have won.

Bottom line.....
Donny held his own, and showed he can play with the best.

 

[trustyrusty]

Donny's getting a lot of credit for stepping up, but I think it took bigger stones for SVB to go into Donny's place, on Donny's table, and play Donny's game.

The Yankees are World Series champions, but would they agree to play a series in St Louis only (no DH), with conditions that only Carpenter and Wainwright would pitch against two Yankees pitchers every other day for that World Series trophy? Cards would expect to take that down, and if they didn't would they be getting kudos for trying to slay the GIANT on their terms?

the backlash after the match seems weird to me. Nice win Shane!!

 

[poolhustler]

Wow lmao!... I'll tell you what... The stipulation is shane has to break hard like he did towards the end of the match and I will play him a race to 150. Here is the best part- you can stake him and I will lay you a price on the money.

Donny,

You are a great player.

But if SVB takes this bet, put me down for $1,000.00 on SVB.

Hope to see you in action again soon, that was a great match by two great players. The score is not indicative of how well you played.

Best,

Russ....

 

[sjensen1207]

Soft break or hard break...if you don't make a ball you don't shoot. Donny was dropping balls on the break like I've never seen in a match. He needs to bottle that break and sell it!
In the end though, the break is only one shot in the game...if you don't make the balls you don't win...Donny and SVB both played outstanding and I couldn't think of a better way to spend $25, than sitting in my office all weekend watching these two battle it out!!

 

[LILJOHN30]

I would love to see the proposed rematch on neutral ground nit at the home teams table race to 150

 

[ga9ball]

Great Match

I would start out by saying I had no vested interest in either winner, both great players. What shocked me the most was how long it took for SVB to figure out how he became the BEST American born pool player today-POWER BREAK. when SVB power breaks and holds the egg,no one can beat him in a long race,other than the possibility of 1 or 2 Pinoy's if even them. Donny Mills is the Best rack your own, soft breaker (on that table) in the world, but that wont happen in real life. I give him all the credit for his game,and wonderful 3rd place in the toughest tourney-US OPEN. Maybe if he didn't scratch on the hill break in that event he would have won it.
If SVB power breaks in another match up he will beat him even worse in my opinion, especially if it takes place in a neutral place such as Vegas or Atlantic City.
So props to both players, but until SVB keeps Power Breaking, No Americans will get the Cheese!