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D-Rock

D-Rock

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I've never shot with a laminated tip. Pretty much just been a lepro and elmaster "milk dud" user. Just didn't justify spending that much money on a tip when I can get a lepro for a buck.

So I decided to try out the laminated tip and see what they were about. After some research I decided on the tiger everest. Looking up prices online I saw they were around 12-15 bucks a pop. I go to the billiard store to see about purchasing a tip, tell him I want a tiger everest. He tells me "well, I have everest tips and tiger tips, which one do you want?" Hmmm. thought tiger made everest? "How much are the tigers?". "12 bucks" he says ok, that sounds about right. "how much is the everest?" "32 bucks". :yikes: wow, if thats a tiger everest thats alot of markup!! ended up buying 2 lepros.

so my question is......... Is there another everest tip on the market besides the one tiger makes?
 
He was jacking with you. You can get them all day long for around 17 bucks on line
 
D-Rock said:
I've never shot with a laminated tip. Pretty much just been a lepro and elmaster "milk dud" user. Just didn't justify spending that much money on a tip when I can get a lepro for a buck.

So I decided to try out the laminated tip and see what they were about. After some research I decided on the tiger everest. Looking up prices online I saw they were around 12-15 bucks a pop. I go to the billiard store to see about purchasing a tip, tell him I want a tiger everest. He tells me "well, I have everest tips and tiger tips, which one do you want?" Hmmm. thought tiger made everest? "How much are the tigers?". "12 bucks" he says ok, that sounds about right. "how much is the everest?" "32 bucks". :yikes: wow, if thats a tiger everest thats alot of markup!! ended up buying 2 lepros.

so my question is......... Is there another everest tip on the market besides the one tiger makes?
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The only Everest Laminated Cue Tip is that made by Tiger.

It does sound like a healthy markup, unless you were quoted an installed price. In the case, the Tiger (Original) would have been a bargain!
 
I personally think lepros are better then the tiger everest, but it isnt touching the tiger sniper tip, a moori,or a ,kamui for that matter..
 
Once you've seen a laminated tip de-laminate itself apart layer by layer under a shaping tool, you stick with elkmasters :)
 
The seller was probably just reading the largest name on the case, and didn't know that TIGER was the company that made Everest tips. Here's what I mean...

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Everest $12, Tiger $9.50
 
Fastolfe said:
Once you've seen a laminated tip de-laminate itself apart layer by layer under a shaping tool, you stick with elkmasters :)
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With laminated tips, you use a curved sander shaping tool. Properly used, you won't get delamination.
 
I had a Tiger Everest installed on a shaft. No problem with the layers comming apart. The secret is don't keep trying to reshape or skuff the surface. I never have the need to reshape it. A hard tip will hold it's shape. I just make sure it is properly chalked. If I miscue it is because of my stroke and not the tip.
 
The only downside I have had with an everest is about once a day I get a miscue because it is a slightly harder tip.
 
Fastolfe said:
Once you've seen a laminated tip de-laminate itself apart layer by layer under a shaping tool, you stick with elkmasters :)
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Whom ever installed your tip should have gave you a clue upon the maintenance of a layered tip or may be he is not knowledgeable about the correct way to install and maintain layered tips himself. For the most part, layered tips should not be shaped with a hand tool and scuffing should be at a very minimum and always scuffed from center to edge and very, very little of that.
I like a harder tip such as a Sniper but on all the cues that I build, unless otherwise instructed, I use the Everest tip. They are a medium tip that after a few shots so as to pack it a little needs no further maintenance and gives good action to the cue ball, very few miscues unless the player has a horrible stroke and will last about 3 times longer than a one piece tip that constantly is in need of shaping, scuffing and trimming for mushrooming.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
I use the Everest tip. They are a medium tip that after a few shots so as to pack it a little needs no further maintenance and gives good action to the cue ball, very few miscues unless the player has a horrible stroke and will last about 3 times longer than a one piece tip that constantly is in need of shaping, scuffing and trimming for mushrooming.

Dick
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I tend to think my stroke is pretty good, and I've personally banned the use of laminated tips on my playing cues ever again. Too many costly miscues. I think the poorer grade of chalk, combined with the glazing effect that pigskin tips can go through cause the increased miscues. I can play with a WB one piece tip that is much harder than an Everest - I will easily get 4 times as many miscues from the Everest (or Emerald, or Moori, or Wizard) as I will from a one-piece tip. Nothing goes on my cues except Triangles or pressed Blue Diamonds from here on in.
 
Shawn Armstrong said:
I tend to think my stroke is pretty good, and I've personally banned the use of laminated tips on my playing cues ever again. Too many costly miscues. I think the poorer grade of chalk, combined with the glazing effect that pigskin tips can go through cause the increased miscues. I can play with a WB one piece tip that is much harder than an Everest - I will easily get 4 times as many miscues from the Everest (or Emerald, or Moori, or Wizard) as I will from a one-piece tip. Nothing goes on my cues except Triangles or pressed Blue Diamonds from here on in.
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I know what you are saying about the miscues, but you should try the Hercules tips! They are hard as hell, and grip just as good as a WB single layer. I used the WB for a while, but switched to the Herc, and have never looked back. After a couple days of playing, I burnished it, and its been good for a few months now! No shaping, scuffing, or burnishing since. I like a lot of layered tips, but most are not hard enough. Just my opinion.


Joe
 
Funny Stuff

D-Rock said:
I've never shot with a laminated tip. Pretty much just been a lepro and elmaster "milk dud" user. Just didn't justify spending that much money on a tip when I can get a lepro for a buck.

So I decided to try out the laminated tip and see what they were about. After some research I decided on the tiger everest. Looking up prices online I saw they were around 12-15 bucks a pop. I go to the billiard store to see about purchasing a tip, tell him I want a tiger everest. He tells me "well, I have everest tips and tiger tips, which one do you want?" Hmmm. thought tiger made everest? "How much are the tigers?". "12 bucks" he says ok, that sounds about right. "how much is the everest?" "32 bucks". :yikes: wow, if thats a tiger everest thats alot of markup!! ended up buying 2 lepros.

so my question is......... Is there another everest tip on the market besides the one tiger makes?
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This is hilarious. Your interest in a layered tip was enough that you went out to price them. Presented with the price options.....you opted for more of the buck a piece LePro......that's funny
 
ne14tennis said:
This is hilarious. Your interest in a layered tip was enough that you went out to price them. Presented with the price options.....you opted for more of the buck a piece LePro......that's funny
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It was more the fact that I was not going to pay that kind of mark up price. I would rather give my local businesses my money then spend it on the internet, and I don't mind paying a little higher price, but that kind of mark up was ridiculous! I didn't want to leave the place empty handed either so I got a few lepros so I could retip my cue and use it while I waited for an everest to ship to me. Plus it never hurts to have a few more tips around.
 
Fastolfe said:
Once you've seen a laminated tip de-laminate itself apart layer by layer under a shaping tool, you stick with elkmasters :)
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Layered tips should be trimmed around not against the layers, especially with hand cutting tools. I have installed over 50 layered tips and I didn't delaminated even one of them. There are tips like Sniper that are very sensitive to heat so I never use a lathe for them. For my money I prefer to spend more on a Wizard, Kamui or Moori then to try lots of Lepro from the box. The idea is that the layered are more consistent then the one piece.
 
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