How do you determine the balance point

LAlouie said:
But,,,,you don't know the size and type of the weight bolt nor the pin.
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Well, we don't know what the original poster had in mind? If he or she wanted to, say, replace the shaft, and knew something about the new one (weight and location of its center of mass), but didn't have it on hand, he/she could calculate the change in balance point for the new combination. The same could be done for a new weight bolt if the old one was extracted and its characteristics thereby known (weight and position).

I'm not a cue maker, and if you are, obviously you could offer more pointed advice than I can. I was just speaking in general terms, since we don't know the purpose or circumstances of the question...at least I didn't. All kinds of odd situations come up. :)

Jim
 
If you haven't got the hidden message from all of the posts the balance point isn't really that important. The important thing about any cue is if it feels good to you.

Just because someone lists a cue with a balance point of x" this doesn't mean anything if it feels butt heavy or too light. It depends more on how the mass is distributed in the cue.

If a 5 ft bar weighs 10 lbs per ft the total weight is 50 lbs with the balance point at 2.5 ft.

Now take another bar that weights 2 lb/ft and add 20 lbs at both ends. This combination also weights 50 lbs with a balance point at 2.5 ft

Now move your hand 3 inches away from the balance point on each. One will be easier to hold.
 
Jal said:
Well, we don't know what the original poster had in mind? If he or she wanted to, say, replace the shaft, and knew something about the new one (weight and location of its center of mass), but didn't have it on hand, he/she could calculate the change in balance point for the new combination. The same could be done for a new weight bolt if the old one was extracted and its characteristics thereby known (weight and position).

I'm not a cue maker, and if you are, obviously you could offer more pointed advice than I can. I was just speaking in general terms, since we don't know the purpose or circumstances of the question...at least I didn't. All kinds of odd situations come up. :)

Jim
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not a cuemaker but i have loads of common sense, thereby placing me high on the food chain here at azb :):D:):D
 
good golly now we got people thinking up formulas on how to find the balance point of a cue. :bash:

what's about how to put a 2 piece cue together? somebody come up with a formula I'm not sure i twisted the shaft the proper number of times.
 
JohnPT said:
good golly now we got people thinking up formulas on how to find the balance point of a cue. :bash:

what's about how to put a 2 piece cue together? somebody come up with a formula I'm not sure i twisted the shaft the proper number of times.
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T=TPI x L+(.005 x TPI) Should give a nice snug connection...... :eek:
Chuck
 
RiverCity said:
T=TPI x L+(.005 x TPI) Should give a nice snug connection...... :eek:
Chuck
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surely it cant be that easy :rolleyes: and even if that might work for the standard 5/16 x 14 thread it does not take into account the flat facing on a 3/8 x 10 pin... oh dont even get me started on a wood pin.
 
JohnPT said:
surely it cant be that easy :rolleyes: and even if that might work for the standard 5/16 x 14 thread it does not take into account the flat facing on a 3/8 x 10 pin... oh dont even get me started on a wood pin.
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Actually, believe it or not, its universal. Im thinking about putting it on a disc, and selling it for 50 bucks a pop though. So Im thinking I should delete that post..... You didnt see that one. Wanna buy the secret for 50 bucks?
Chuck
 
RiverCity said:
Actually, believe it or not, its universal. Im thinking about putting it on a disc, and selling it for 50 bucks a pop though. So Im thinking I should delete that post..... You didnt see that one. Wanna buy the secret for 50 bucks?
Chuck
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no way i'm no fool. 60 bucks and you got yourself a deal mister.
 
actually Efren doesnt care about the balance point. he did play with a moochi at one point.
 
SidePocket09 said:
I was wondering how you figure out the balance point of a cue? ...
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This may help...
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(From Wikipedia)
 
LAlouie said:
not a cuemaker but i have loads of common sense, thereby placing me high on the food chain here at azb :):D:):D
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What does your common sense say about balancing something on your fingers that isn't there, or only part of which is on hand? We peasants generally aren't educated enough to figure things like that out. Nor are our powers of telepathy sufficiently sensitive to divine the OP's intentions. But I am comforted to know the aristocracy here has it all worked out.

Jim
 
Jal said:
We peasants generally aren't educated enough to figure things like that out.

Jim
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But you can at least read, right? The OP simply asked, "I was wondering how you figure out the balance point of a cue?"

Don't make more of something than it already is ~ I hope you don't run your patterns the way you think.
 
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LAlouie said:
But you can at least read, right?
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Controversial subject.

LAlouie said:
The OP simply asked, "I was wondering how you figure out the balance point of a cue?"
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But then added in the next post:

"I know that I was wondering if there was a more mathmatical way or a way to determine if you do not have the cue in your hand?"

From that, and some mighty brainstorming (at least as much as I could muster), I deduced that he or she was looking for something more than one-liners, entertaining as they may have been. Maybe that hearkens back to your first point.

If you chew on it long and hard, I think you can come up with several scenarios where someone might want to calculate the balance point, but not have all of the parts physically present. That can easily be done using an offshoot of the formulas Bob Jewett listed above. Whether that would ultimately be used for good or ill, was not for us to decide, imo.

Look, if my first reply to you came off as a bit snippy (or whatever), it wasn't my intention, and I'm sorry if it read that way. What I write doesn't always mimic what I'm thinking, or convey the right tone.

Jim
 
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