64, 64, 85

Marop

Marop

14.1 - real pool
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Within the last 15 innings or so I managed to run 64 twice and an 85, the second 64 and the 85 could not have ended any stupider (not sure that is a word). The 64 ended when I didn't hit the ball hard enough to make it to the pocket. You will see how the 85 ended.

I'm beginning to think I just do not have enough cue ball control to run more than a 100 once every year or so (reality setting in). In this 85 ball run I didn't execute numerous shots the way I wanted to which forced me to change my pattern or come with a much harder shot.

Maybe I should just rack for John while he attempts to run 500. lol

http://vimeo.com/11038695
 
thats some strong shooting right there Bill...

Well i believe John will run 500 before any of us here runs 150 lol
 
bill: with shooting like that you can beat 80% of the 14.1 players on the planet. if your cueball control is amiss, go back to rempe's "scattered ball" drill. it works.
 
Great Shooting Bill....Although a very frustrating ending.

If you go back and review the last rack when you had 5 or 6 balls, you had an alternative out. if you played the 2or4 ball up the corner and played for the ball in the top left corner. then come back down play the ball in the bottom left corner then had the key ball in the side pocket to setup for the break shot.

that may have given you a better break angle to hit the rack better.


Always a pleasure to watch you shoot bill, look forward to watching more !
Steve

PS: Where's the dog ??
 
just watched it complete, nice smooth run Bill. But i would have just bumped the ball out and played the 14 it is i guess next instead of drawing back. i think u had enough angle to do that. The triple digit was so close and you would have made it that way i am sure. keep em coming...will upload a 56 as soon as possible myself....hope somebody is watching it too...
 
again??

Jesus, Billy. You are running big numbers daily and I, for one am getting sick of it. It's getting to be a joke. When you get 40s and 50s, you say you got nothing. Wow.

You seem to be putting up 60-80s pretty consistently these days. How many years ago was it when your usual numbers were 20s and 30s? I think your caddy job with John Schmidt is paying off big time.

I suspect that within the next few years you will regularly be putting up hondos, "Raining 100s", as Mr. Rempe would say. Keep up the good work. :thumbup:
 
sausage said:
bill: with shooting like that you can beat 80% of the 14.1 players on the planet. if your cueball control is amiss, go back to rempe's "scattered ball" drill. it works.
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I'd guess the number is more like 99%!

And Bill -- Given the high frequency with which you are running 50+, hundreds are going to start popping up with some regularity.
 
Great run Bill. You do make it look easy and that is a sign you are doing a lot of things right.
That was an unusually show of emotion at the end.
Don't blame you a bit and it just gives us all a glimpse of the focus you are using and the sudden release of the emotion shows the control that was in place before hand.
I agree with the other poster that you can beat probably 90+% of 14.1 players already and you are just getting started.
Thanks for all those post! Keep em coming!
 
Marop said:
Within the last 15 innings or so I managed to run 64 twice and an 85, the second 64 and the 85 could not have ended any stupider (not sure that is a word). The 64 ended when I didn't hit the ball hard enough to make it to the pocket. You will see how the 85 ended.

I'm beginning to think I just do not have enough cue ball control to run more than a 100 once every year or so (reality setting in). In this 85 ball run I didn't execute numerous shots the way I wanted to which forced me to change my pattern or come with a much harder shot.

Maybe I should just rack for John while he attempts to run 500. lol

http://vimeo.com/11038695
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Bill, I'm curious what you were trying at 3:46 of the 85 ball run... Unless you play this ball with massive left, so that you make sure to come to the right side of the 13 (as seen on the screen), I think this shot is really dangerous. Almost nothing good can happen once you miss this lane (there is a very slight chance that you could go through the alley between the 13 and the 5, but this seems pretty low percentage.)

It looks like your only other options were shooting the 1 in the side or the 8 in the far corner. Even though you'd be shooting over a ball (maybe two) to make the 1, I think this has to be the right shot. If you make sure to take your time with it, you'll make it every time. The 8 is slightly missable, but not too bad, and would allow you a nice way to get on that troublesome 15 down the corner.

If you really don't like the 1 or the 8, going for the 3 becomes acceptable but only if you recognize the dangers and really apply that left english.

Just my opinion, and it's great to see you running balls so consistently.

- Steve
 
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Steve Lipsky said:
Bill, I'm curious what you were trying at 3:46 of the 85 ball run... Unless you play this ball with massive left, so that you make sure to come to the right side of the 13 (as seen on the screen), I think this shot is really dangerous. Almost nothing good can happen once you miss this lane (there is a very slight chance that you could go through the alley between the 13 and the 5, but this seems pretty low percentage.)

It looks like your only other options were shooting the 1 in the side or the 8 in the far corner. Even though you'd be shooting over a ball (maybe two) to make the 1, I think this has to be the right shot. If you make sure to take your time with it, you'll make it every time. The 8 is slightly missable, but not too bad, and would allow you a nice way to get on that troublesome 15 down the corner.

If you really don't like the 1 or the 8, going for the 3 becomes acceptable but only if you recognize the dangers and really apply that left english.

Just my opinion, and it's great to see you running balls so consistently.

- Steve

- Steve
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You hit the nail on the head Steve, I just didn't want to shoot over a ball for the 1 in the side and it was at a slight enough angle that I didn't like where I was going to end up if I just cinched the ball. I thought I could have gotten around the 13 which comes back to my statement that I just don't think my cue ball control is where it needs to be, I have seen John do this time after time which puts me into the mind set that I can do it too. I knew it was a low percentage shot and I probably would have chose a different route had I been on a larger run at the time.
 
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hi

great shootin bud.
if you never run 100 on film thats ok your playin real good.

your kinda like a golfer ,you havent broken par on film but your shootin 72-76 daily which is great.

that 100 on film is coming i just know it, and im going to be happier for you than you are.


keep trying champ you can get there,its tough as hell running 100 but i think you have the talent to pull it off.
 
john schmidt said:
keep trying champ you can get there,its tough as hell running 100 but i think you have the talent to pull it off.
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right that is, Bill has learned a lot from John and shoots straight as railroad. I think I should give up chasing that elusive perspective of taking a lesson from John and switch to trying to learn from Bill since now it seems just the same :thumbup: Almost.
 
dmgwalsh said:
You seem to be putting up 60-80s pretty consistently these days. How many years ago was it when your usual numbers were 20s and 30s? I think your caddy job with John Schmidt is paying off big time.
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You are so right. About 2 years ago, a typical day would net maybe 1 or 2 runs in the 20 to 30 range with an occasional 50 every couple of weeks. Even though my high run was 97 when I met John, I knew it wasn't a real indication of the way I played. All the stars had just lined up that day. About a year after starting to get help from John and watching him play, my average went to the 40 to 50 range. Now it seems to be in the 50 to 70 range with a few 80's sprinkled in.

Every aspect of my game has improved due to John's help, patterns, shot selection, break shots and he even pointed out to me that I have been hitting a certain shot wrong for 30 years and that shot comes up at least once every rack.

Hopefully, I will continue to improve but if I don't, I still feel good about my game and I can honestly say that without John's help, I would not have reached this level. I'm having more fun now than I ever.

- Bill
 
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thanks Bill for your posts, the path you walked gives us hope that it is possible to achieve :)
And it's great you are having fun playing, that's one of the most important parts. We should never forget pool is a game, and people play games for pleasure and entertainment. So if one starts getting frustrated rather than getting fun from their pool game, it's time to take a break.
 
how i would love to trade places with you Bill ! John would surely make all of us better players and i would love to be where you are now, thats close to world class my friend !
 
hi

Marop said:
You are so right. About 2 years ago, a typical day would net maybe 1 or 2 runs in the 20 to 30 range with an occasional 50 every couple of weeks. Even though my high run was 97 when I met John, I knew it wasn't a real indication of the way I played. All the stars had just lined up that day. About a year after starting to get help from John and watching him play, my average went to the 40 to 50 range. Now it seems to be in the 50 to 70 range with a few 80's sprinkled in.

Every aspect of my game has improved due to John's help, patterns, shot selection, break shots and he even pointed out to me that I have been hitting a certain shot wrong for 30 years and that shot comes up at least once every rack.

Hopefully, I will continue to improve but if I don't, I still feel good about my game and I can honestly say that without John's help, I would not have reached this level. I'm having more fun now than I ever.

- Bill
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well billy thats very flattering ,truth is though you are the kind of person who can get very good at whatever you put your mind too.
maybe i sped things up a bit but believe me ,when i look around your office and see 3 world titles and about 60 oscars from racing,that tells me that you have the innate ability to master things that interest you.


if i could teach how to have that innate ability i would be rich.

i said this before but i have no doubt that if you traded in the last 30 years of working and racing ,you probably would not be my best pal but instead a 400 ball runner who chases me around to gamble.
 
Marop said:
... he even pointed out to me that I have been hitting a certain shot wrong for 30 years and that shot comes up at least once every rack. ...
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It's a good bet that many of us are making that same mistake, whatever it is. Are you willing to educate us about it?
 
Marop said:
You are so right. About 2 years ago, a typical day would net maybe 1 or 2 runs in the 20 to 30 range with an occasional 50 every couple of weeks. Even though my high run was 97 when I met John, I knew it wasn't a real indication of the way I played. All the stars had just lined up that day. About a year after starting to get help from John and watching him play, my average went to the 40 to 50 range. Now it seems to be in the 50 to 70 range with a few 80's sprinkled in.

Every aspect of my game has improved due to John's help, patterns, shot selection, break shots and he even pointed out to me that I have been hitting a certain shot wrong for 30 years and that shot comes up at least once every rack.

Hopefully, I will continue to improve but if I don't, I still feel good about my game and I can honestly say that without John's help, I would not have reached this level. I'm having more fun now than I ever.

- Bill
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High Praise For Schmidty and Marop !!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
Good video Bill, as always its fun to watch you play. Well there was one thing that puzzled me in your run that I wonder if you executed wrong. At 21:49 you shoot your insurance ball (11 ball) instead of the break ball to open the stack(15 ball). As a result the only shot you had left is the 15 with no insurance ball. You then break the stack with this shot and get stuck with a very tough cut on the 7 up in the far right corner. So I would have initially broke with the 15 and then shot the 11. Also when you did shoot the 15 you hit it with draw and got stuck because of it, I think stun follow would have been better. I am definitely no expert but I am learning and starting to see things that are right and things that are wrong. I see the wrong stuff all the time when I play!!!. :D

I wish I could trade tables with you for a month. Your's just plays so nice. Well I am going to put a video up today whether its a 10 ball run or a 30 ball run. So you can let me have it!
 
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