First 147 on television

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A 147 in snooker is when you make all the red balls - 1 point each and then all the black balls 7 points each and then all the colors 2-7points in order like nine ball.

It's an incredible feat - Steve Davis was the first snooker professional to do it on tv in a pro event.

In this 147 he actually banks on red ball in the side to keep going and he has several very tough shots.

Watch and enjoy.
 
Nice!

John,

Snooker 147's fascinate me because they are perfection. As great as high 14.1 runs are they usually end with a failure. The 147 doesn't. Somehow it just seems better although sometimes it probably isn't harder.

A side note, a bowler just set a US record of 47 strikes. He quit when his second match was over and left it open on the end finishing with a strike. He is an amateur and I don't know if anyone has ever officially bowled more strikes or this is just an association record. Hell of an accomplishment anyway and he didn't close it with a failure.

Hu

JB Cases said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgnAIsPY8hA&feature=related

A 147 in snooker is when you make all the red balls - 1 point each and then all the black balls 7 points each and then all the colors 2-7points in order like nine ball.

It's an incredible feat - Steve Davis was the first snooker professional to do it on tv in a pro event.

In this 147 he actually banks on red ball in the side to keep going and he has several very tough shots.

Watch and enjoy.
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Fun fact: Steve almost wasn't the first. John Spencer (the man whom Steve made this break against) made one on the television table in 1979. However the camera man was on break during the run and it was never captured on film.
 
Cameron Smith said:
Fun fact: Steve almost wasn't the first. John Spencer (the man whom Steve made this break against) made one on the television table in 1979. However the camera man was on break during the run and it was never captured on film.
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So how do you think that this went? The match is being played and commented on and the cameraman goes on break while play is continuing?

Isn't the idea of being the first to do it on television that it's done while filming is occurring live and in real time.

I guess I don't quite understand the timeline on Spencer's 147. Was it in competition, was he practicing? Granted I have NO IDEA what the standards of Snooker broadcasting were in 1979 but as long as I have watched snooker they have always shown every shot of every frame of the match.

Anyway I bet that this fact is not so fun for John Spencer.

How about the first shot of Davis' run though? Tough little shot to the side. He really came with some shots during this run.
 
JB Cases said:
So how do you think that this went? The match is being played and commented on and the cameraman goes on break while play is continuing?

Isn't the idea of being the first to do it on television that it's done while filming is occurring live and in real time.

I guess I don't quite understand the timeline on Spencer's 147. Was it in competition, was he practicing? Granted I have NO IDEA what the standards of Snooker broadcasting were in 1979 but as long as I have watched snooker they have always shown every shot of every frame of the match.

Anyway I bet that this fact is not so fun for John Spencer.

How about the first shot of Davis' run though? Tough little shot to the side. He really came with some shots during this run.
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Not sure of the exact details, but it's fairly well known in the snookerverse. It was definitely in competition though.

However it wasn't the world championships and as of 1979, snooker had yet to recieve the same kind of coverage they enjoyed throughout it's 80's heyday. I would have to look this up, but I don't think the World Championships recieved major coverage until 1979.
 
ShootingArts said:
John,

Snooker 147's fascinate me because they are perfection. As great as high 14.1 runs are they usually end with a failure. The 147 doesn't. Somehow it just seems better although sometimes it probably isn't harder.

A side note, a bowler just set a US record of 47 strikes. He quit when his second match was over and left it open on the end finishing with a strike. He is an amateur and I don't know if anyone has ever officially bowled more strikes or this is just an association record. Hell of an accomplishment anyway and he didn't close it with a failure.

Hu
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I once had 48 strikes in a row! But I was playing baseball. :rotflmao:
 
Cameron Smith said:
Not sure of the exact details, but it's fairly well known in the snookerverse. It was definitely in competition though.

However it wasn't the world championships and as of 1979, snooker had yet to recieve the same kind of coverage they enjoyed throughout it's 80's heyday. I would have to look this up, but I don't think the World Championships recieved major coverage until 1979.
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I was fortunate to be one of only three spectators to witness this Maximum Break. It was in The Holsten Lager Tournament in Slough Community Centre near Heathrow Airport. The camera crew had been shooting earlier frames but despite the match still being in mid stream, when it was lunchtime they
just downed tools and went off to eat. Spencer carried on and proceeded to make his 147 in front of three witnesses.

The first official televised Maximum came shortly afterwards in the Lada Classic against................John Spencer. Steve Davis had that privilege and won a Lada car for this feat. At that time he was driving a Porsche!

The first time that The World Championship was played in the Crucible was in 1977 and the Canadian Cliff Thorburn lost in the final 11-25 against ........
John Spencer.

Thorburn and the Maximum Break - In 1983 Cliff became the first player to compile a 147 at the Crucible.

Back to 1979 and that is when snooker really took off when Terry Griffiths won the World title at his first attempt. He played through from the qualifiers and suddenly the man in the street felt that such success was attainable by anyone. I opened my first snooker club in 1978 but it really boomed after the Welshman's triumph.
 
ShootingArts said:
John,

Snooker 147's fascinate me because they are perfection. As great as high 14.1 runs are they usually end with a failure. The 147 doesn't. Somehow it just seems better although sometimes it probably isn't harder.



Hu
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I feel the opposite.By the time you reach 80 in a 147 you're safe.
Your opponent needs a lot of snookers.The rest is vanity or at best
a matter of aesthetics.
At straight-pool if you run 149 in a match to 150 ,you can still lose.
Every shot is crucial at straight-pool.
 
much the same with high straight pool runs

pt109 said:
I feel the opposite.By the time you reach 80 in a 147 you're safe.
Your opponent needs a lot of snookers.The rest is vanity or at best
a matter of aesthetics.
At straight-pool if you run 149 in a match to 150 ,you can still lose.
Every shot is crucial at straight-pool.
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While you are right about 14.1 competition most well known high straight pool runs are because they are continued after a match, in an exhibition, or some practice runs are recognized. The pressure of winning is gone long before the run is finished.

I have won pistol matches only one or two points down from a perfect score and I have won them with perfect scores. There just isn't any comparison between the two.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
While you are right about 14.1 competition most well known high straight pool runs are because they are continued after a match, in an exhibition, or some practice runs are recognized. The pressure of winning is gone long before the run is finished.

I have won pistol matches only one or two points down from a perfect score and I have won them with perfect scores. There just isn't any comparison between the two.

Hu
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Yep. Past a certain point in high runs or frames, you're competing against the game. A 147 is a win.
 
Well nobody seems to be contesting the fact that Steve Davis made the 1st televised 147 so it must be true However I really thisnk that Cliff Thorburn was the first to do it on tv. Everyone in England stopped what they were doing to watch it and thats why I think he was the first. Are we positive the Davis was the first?
 
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