What size pockets for 14.1

what size is right for 14.1

i'd like to hear everyones opinion

I think it depends on the quality of the players. The very good players believe tight pockets, somewhere around 4 1/2" to 4 3/4" are better and give them an edge. However, for lesser players those pockets get very frustrating and 4 3/4" to 5" would be better.

Pockets tighter than 4 1/2" just get silly for good competition.

For myself, I'm looking for a table with 10" pockets. :rolleyes:
 
I set my GC4 up at 4 1/4". It plays pretty good for straight pool as you can still cheat the pockets, but obviously not as much. Keep in mind though that I was compromising in order to have a table that would play tough but be satisfactory for all games as well as wanting something a little tighter than typical for practice. I've resigned myself to the fact I will not be a steady 100 ball runner on my table.

Had I only been concerned with straight pool I would have gone with 4 1/2". On a deep shelf table like a Diamond or Olhausen I would go a bit bigger, perhaps up to 4 3/4". Five inches is a little big for my taste, deep shelf or not.
 
I set my GC4 up at 4 1/4". It plays pretty good for straight pool as you can still cheat the pockets, but obviously not as much. Keep in mind though that I was compromising in order to have a table that would play tough but be satisfactory for all games as well as wanting something a little tighter than typical for practice. I've resigned myself to the fact I will not be a steady 100 ball runner on my table.

Had I only been concerned with straight pool I would have gone with 4 1/2". On a deep shelf table like a Diamond or Olhausen I would go a bit bigger, perhaps up to 4 3/4". Five inches is a little big for my taste, deep shelf or not.

imo 5" isn't even playing pool.
 
4.5 to 4.75 inches. That's a pretty fair size. 14.1 is most fun when your running lots of balls. Besides your supposed to be able to cheat the pocket in pool.

That said, a 100 ball run on 5 inch pockets isn't that easy either. Not for amateurs anyways.
 
4.5 to 4.75 inches. That's a pretty fair size. 14.1 is most fun when your running lots of balls. Besides your supposed to be able to cheat the pocket in pool.

That said, a 100 ball run on 5 inch pockets isn't that easy either. Not for amateurs anyways.

yeah a hundo isn't easy to run no matter how big the pockets are. but i've seen a lot of videos and you can count the number of balls that should have hung up on 2 hands
 
yeah a hundo isn't easy to run no matter how big the pockets are. but i've seen a lot of videos and you can count the number of balls that should have hung up on 2 hands

I don't know how you can say a ball "should have hung up". Irregardless of the size of the pockets, players will play balls to the edge of the pocket on certain shots. It doesn't really matter if the pocket is 4" or 6".
 
I don't know how you can say a ball "should have hung up". Irregardless of the size of the pockets, players will play balls to the edge of the pocket on certain shots. It doesn't really matter if the pocket is 4" or 6".

"Would" have hung up is probably more apt in comparision to a tighter table. I, too, have often noted that when watching vids.
FWIW, my Diamond Pro corners are set at 4.625", and in combination with the deeper shelf, are sufficiently challenging for 14.1. Sides are 5.125".
 
I have a GC II 9' table is set 4 5/8 or so just over 2 balls wide. It is a good size pocket so you can run balls but not too tight. I think anything under 4 1/4 is not good for straight pool I want to run some sort of number and be able to work the pocket.
 
pocket size for 14.1

I believe that 4.5 pockets should be on all tables.How and why are tourneys and personals records played on and official playing on buckets.I truly believe that the list that Steve Lipsky started about living 200 ball runners would be 80% less at least if these players had to play on 4.5 inch pockets.I tell everyone I know even my students when high runs are mentioned that buckets dont count.If I played on buckets all the time instead of a tight diamond table I feel my high run would be over 400.As always I tell it as i see it.

Bobby Chamberlain
 
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agreed.... in major tournaments where records are kept, the tables should be standardized. however, there are other factors to be considered beyond pocket size and depth such as polished vs waxed balls and how often polishing should occur, cue-ball weight and sensitivity of cushions and pocket facings. all the tables i have owned and many upon which i have played, had some pockets that played harder than others. if standards are ever set, the details might become an serious impediment to organizing tournaments.
 
I like either 4 1/2" or 4 5/8" for straight pool. Over the years, I've been to several 14.1 tournaments where the pockets were looser than this, and I feel it made every 100-ball run less special and, by reducing the number of innings per match, gave underdogs a better chance to score upsets.

Bob Jewett's straight pool challenge at Derby City confirms this for me every year. A 100 ball run on the Diamond tables in use is typically within the grasp of only the most elite players, and a run in the eighties will nearly always get you through to the single elimination stage, despite four long days of qualifying and two tables on which to qualify.

Still, I don't like straight pool on "silly tight" tables, and think that anything tighter than 4 1/2" is too tight.
 
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