can you do the kamui shots?

yo i dig the answer for sure. i'd just like to see some proof since they're so routine he shoots them all the time

If you wanted proof, then you should have stated that with the question.

Mind you, not all people care about proving anything to anyone, and not all people actually own a camera in the first place so you should expect to be disappointed.

And i'd be willing to bet that the majority of shortstops in every region, would be able to do these shots given some practice, let alone, any pros.

If you are not in the skill set of those that can do these shots, don't be a hater, go practice more.
 
All the shots in this video are easy... (stroke not included)

Stroke Shots

and FWIW, Adam could do CRAZY shots better than me one handed and still walk out the door.

:wink:
 
If you wanted proof, then you should have stated that with the question.

Mind you, not all people care about proving anything to anyone, and not all people actually own a camera in the first place so you should expect to be disappointed.

And i'd be willing to bet that the majority of shortstops in every region, would be able to do these shots given some practice, let alone, any pros.

If you are not in the skill set of those that can do these shots, don't be a hater, go practice more.

i've seen videos of home boy on the web and he does the website deal for a living. i did ask for people to post up videos if they could.

stop hating? i don't hate i'd just like to see them done since they're so easy. i know the guy hits the ball well enough but i don't believe the shots are as easy as he's trying to make them sound. if anything they're not routine.

i don't play pool for a living and i don't have my own website to glorify my ability. the guy's a talented shortstop and he's coming on here and saying "oh yeah those are easy anyone can do that".

you calling me a hater's funny. you should quit d*ck riding before you accuse someone of hating
 
There's a difference between, for example, Mully's response which sounds sincere and honest, and Wybrook's response which sounds like he'd rather be saying "yeah, duh - what are you retarded or something? who couldn't do those? idiot."

That's the whole debate here.
 
There's a difference between, for example, Mully's response which sounds sincere and honest, and Wybrook's response which sounds like he'd rather be saying "yeah, duh - what are you retarded or something? who couldn't do those? idiot."

That's the whole debate here.

Exactly. i've see that the guy's talented for sure.

but to say this shot's routine and or easy just seems either cocky or an out right lie. it's a lot of things but routine isn't one of 'em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEAk8o8O-44
 
I see you want to just keep egging this on....

I wasn't the least bit arrogant until you started being an ass and doubting I could do anything, just because you can't.

Implying I play shape that bad as the reason I can shoot these shots is totally ludicruis. I just happen to be able to play pool well and have dedicated much of my life doing it. As soon as you can do more than two of the shots, let me know.

Maybe you should have entitled your thread as such:

Can you do these kamui shots? and if you can or think they are easy, don't post in my thread because I think they are totally amazing and can't do any of them, and am jealous of anyone who can do them.

You have a curious notion that this forum is only for people with the same skill level as you. Well, lo and behold there are people who play better than you who have every bit as much right to post here too, and if the lower players want to stay there, keep driving us off. I had no attitude towards you until you started, so don't insinuate I was in any was insulting or arrogant initially. You are wrong.

like i said earlier in the post i'd love to see some guys from az post up examples of them shooting these shots.

just out of curiosity if these shots are routine what exactly gets classified as an impressive shot?
 
just out of curiosity if these shots are routine what exactly gets classified as an impressive shot?

I think impressive shots are the ones that require a stroke AND precision. Anyone can draw the ball with a little practice so plain draw shots don't impress me at all.

For example, Cory's 4 ball draw in the US Open a couple years ago was a real nice example of a shot I liked. (can't find the link)

Many of Efren's one pocket shots where he kicks/banks/shoots a ball and goes multiple rails, between balls to fall perfectly on another ball, are impressive.

Raw power is just that....meanwhile, skill is hard to attain and thus impressive at its highest level...
 
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I think impressive shots are the ones that require a stroke AND precision. Anyone can draw the ball with a little practice so plain draw shots don't impress me at all.

For example, Cory's 5 ball draw in the US Open a couple years ago was a real nice example of a shot I liked. (can't find the link)

Many of Efren's one pocket shots where he kicks/banks/shoots a ball and goes multiple rails, between balls to fall perfectly on another ball, are impressive.

Raw power is just that....meanwhile, skill is hard to attain and thus impressive at its highest level...

I just blogged about that shot a few days ago... the video is here: http://johnny101.com/post/2010/08/21/Amazing-Draw-Shot-(Corey-Deuel).aspx
 
you calling me a hater's funny. you should quit d*ck riding before you accuse someone of hating

Certainly sounds like you are getting angry. Could that be hate? :rolleyes:

I really don't see a problem with people coming on here and saying that they aren't hard to do, and that they are relatively easy.
Why does that bother you so much?

Would it be because YOU can't do them easily?

In real life pool, there is a distinct pecking order. The guys that can, the guys that can't, and the guys in-between.
Pool is an EGO based sport. (although, ones ego typically has little to do with how well they play the game, but instead, how well they THINK they play the game)

With that said, if you were to walk into any pool room in the country, and lay these shots out, i'd be willing to bet that the MAJORITY of upper echelon players that could do them, would do them in a matter of fact no nonsense type of way. I'd be willing to bet that a high % of them would also turn to the guys that suck, and say, "It's easy"

What, are good pool players now supposed to treat not so good pool players with kids gloves so that they don't cry?
Are they instead supposed to be like,"Man, these shots are so damn hard, i got lucky to make them" so that the guys that suck don't get offended because they can't do it?

It's like when you have a newbie who can't draw the ball.
They can try all day, but they just can't do it.
Top shelf pool player walks over and says, "you can't draw the ball? It's easy" , hits the ball softly and draws the ball the length of the table and says, "see" and the kid just looks at him.
It's very matter of fact-ly, because it IS easy to the guy that can do it.

Personally, i don't see why people are so bent about it.
Guaranteed, that none of the pool players that can actually DO it are bent out of shape, only those that can't.
That right there should tell you something.
 
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I just blogged about that shot a few days ago... the video is here: http://johnny101.com/post/2010/08/21/Amazing-Draw-Shot-(Corey-Deuel).aspx

For example, Cory's 4 ball draw in the US Open a couple years ago was a real nice example of a shot I liked. (can't find the link)
That shot's not any harder (or easier) than most of the Kamui shots. Same level of precision. Besides, he's shooting on a big pocket U.S. Open table with brand new cloth. Fast cloth and a draw stroke is an easy recipe for a stroke shot.

Doing it on demand in a tourney is what makes Corey's shot awesome. IMO, If you can do the Kamui shots, you can do Corey's shot.

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That shot's not any harder (or easier) than most of the Kamui shots. Same level of precision. Besides, he's shooting on a big pocket U.S. Open table with brand new cloth. Fast cloth and a draw stroke is an easy recipe for a stroke shot.

Doing it on demand in a tourney is what makes Corey's shot awesome. IMO, If you can do the Kamui shots, you can do Corey's shot.

-td

I think you are right. Especially on new cloth, that ball will snap back straight down as shown.

The main reason I like that shot is because he hit it real crisp in the finals of a major tourney while en route to beating Mika 11-0. The shot isn't super hard, but the circumstances are.
 
I think you are right. Especially on new cloth, that ball will snap back straight down as shown.

The main reason I like that shot is because he hit it real crisp in the finals of a major tourney while en route to beating Mika 11-0. The shot isn't super hard, but the circumstances are.

This shot wasn't the year he shut mika out in the us open.
 
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