Trying to identify this cue

bobsomebody

bobsomebody

I moved up to a 3! go me!
So as with most stories about unidentified cues, this of coarse starts off with me a buddy and a bar. He comes up and tells me he has a cue he wants to sell but he knows its worth a fair amount of money but he wants to sell it to someone who will take care of it.

The downside, both shafts are warped and one was missing a tip. The shafts needed to be turned to smooth them out again due to the delinquency this cue has received over the years.

That being said here are some images of the butt, it has absolutely no logos or names or signatures anywhere on the shaft or the butt but it does have a decent pin in it (3/8ths i think but im no expert in cues, i just know what the pin looks like compared to that standard low end players pin)

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also any tips or tricks on fixing a warp would be nice (im well aware its basically impossible but if im going to end up replacing the shafts, or at least getting another one, I may as well give it a shot)
 
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How patient are you?
There's one method I know to take out a warp , but it literally may take a few years .
take an 8" length of rawhide thong , and loop it over your closet rod . Tape the two ends of the rawhide thong on opposite sides of your ferrule , parellell to each other. screw the butt on for weight , and , with nothing touching it , let it hang in the back of the closet a few years .
This usually works , but you have to be very patient , and have lots of closet space .
 
ridinda9 said:
How patient are you?
There's one method I know to take out a warp , but it literally may take a few years .
take an 8" length of rawhide thong , and loop it over your closet rod . Tape the two ends of the rawhide thong on opposite sides of your ferrule , parellell to each other. screw the butt on for weight , and , with nothing touching it , let it hang in the back of the closet a few years .
This usually works , but you have to be very patient , and have lots of closet space .
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well thats an interesting solution, to bad I dont have much closet space left and I was looking for something a little faster, thank you for your input none the less, if all else fails im sure i might give that a shot :grin:

any ideas as to who might have made this cue? Ive been on google for a few hours now and the gloss finishing on the butt kinda looks like a Meucci (an older player at the pool hall said he thinks its an old Meucci) but the design patterns dont really strike me as one, looking at Luccasi's the look more similar but the lack of a metal um.... i dunno what you call it... where the pin screws into the shaft, i noticed that part is just plain wood so im a little more confused.
 
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The cue you have is either an Omega, or palmer (both chinese imports). Value with 2 good shafts? Retail $150-200. Ebay $60-70.

And as a cue maker and cue repairer, THERE IS NO WAY TO FIX A WARP. There are 3 day remedies, that may take the warp out for 3 day's but it is just going to warp again. If the warp isn't like a banana and is just a small warp, then it shouldn't hurt your shooting any.
 
RFisher said:
The cue you have is either an Omega, or palmer (both chinese imports). Value with 2 good shafts? Retail $150-200. Ebay $60-70.

And as a cue maker and cue repairer, THERE IS NO WAY TO FIX A WARP. There are 3 day remedies, that may take the warp out for 3 day's but it is just going to warp again. If the warp isn't like a banana and is just a small warp, then it shouldn't hurt your shooting any.
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ding ding ding.
Knock-off radial pin=Import.
 
Looks like the Omega OM-5. I sold a few recently and they are pretty decent players for the money and the league players seem to like them.
 
The cue in question is a 4035 manufactured by KaoKao.
I have that one and 3 others available in this thread. :thumbup:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=198406
I have been shooting with that same model myself for over a year.
Mine is as straight and true as the day it was made.
The one in question must have been poorly cared for.
 
awesome well at least its a lesson learned and i didnt dump much money in it. I figured something was up when i saw the shafts didnt have a metal female part to the screw pin in them. The guy I got it from is an old friend of the family so im sure he didnt have any idea what it was worth.... nor anyone else in the pool hall for that matter.

The other plus side is everyone at the pool hall thinks its worth a lot more so i'll just chuck it for the money I put into it and grab a different cue. (had the shafts cleaned and re-tipped) even if i cant sell it im only out $80 total and it does hit decent even with the warp so it might make for a decent breaker if i cant get rid of it.

either way its not a huge loss and I learned a few things about identifying cues. :)

thank you all for your input :D
 
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With a 3/8th or a Radial pin, there are no brass inserts in the shaft so that has no bearing on whether a cue is good or not. The pins insert directly into the shaft which is tapped for the correct thread.
But, the Kao Kao cues are pretty decent so at the very least, you have either a bar beater or a break cue.

Don't sweat it, I once bought a Hormilton watch for $35 thinking it was a Hamilton. I think alot of us have done something similar in our day.
 
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Just to set the record straight and for your knowledge, there are many high quality custom cues that do not have a metal insert in the shaft.
That fact has no relevance to the quality of the cue.
There have been at least 2 other threads started in the last few months very similar to yours.
They all lend themselves as a testimonial to the great quality product that KaoKao puts forth. :yes:
Anyone interested in trying one Please PM me. :)
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
With a 3/8th or a Radial pin, there are no brass inserts in the shaft so that has no bearing on whether a cue is good or not. The pins insert directly into the shaft which is tapped for the correct thread.
But, the Kao Kao cues are pretty decent so at the very least, you have either a bar beater or a break cue.

Don't sweat it, I once bought a Hormilton watch for $35 thinking it was a Hamilton. I think alot of us have done something similar in our day.
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haha nah im not worried about it at all im sure i can resell it for what ive spent if not most of it, if all else fails i just wont tell anyone and i'll let them keep thinking im over there slapping a custom meucci around like its a cheap house cue, should make for some fun times :thumbup:

(with all the players that gave me input at the pool hall i doubt it could be a group conspiracy of some sort to sell this cue, most if not all of them think its worth in excess of $400-$500)
 
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