Mika stop crying about the rack!

You don't change from rack your own to nuetral racker after a week...esp for the semi finals and finals. We're talking about the US Open here, not some $500 regional tour stop. Yes Barry or the TD can do whatever they want but it don't make it right. They have a year in between tournaments. Plenty of time to get things right and stay with them ALL through the tournament. Johnnyt

Agreed. You're going to love this... the finals will be rack your own. LOL, insanity!
 
Renfro:

Thanks for this well-written synopsis. While the logic behind what you say is for the most part sound, the problem is that this sport -- and especially this luck-/rolls-vulnerable game of 9-ball -- requires ADAPTATION. The best players adapt to the conditions without complaining (or at least don't let the process of adaptation itself frustrate them internally); others, well... they might have the initials M.I...

-Sean



One can spend time getting better at complaining or one can watch/learn/realize playing conditions have changed and wait for their turn/if your complaining your not attending to business. All good players know that when you near the dew point (E.Coast) and the crowds are huge and the air is getting heavier, conditions change dramatically compared to earlier in the event, especially being Saturday, allot of people have the time to attend.
 
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I wasn't fortunate enough to watch the match due to work but, didn't Corey have the same neutral racker, table and conditions as Mika? I didn't hear anything about Corey b!tchen or moaning about the racks. Sounds like Corey was more focused on adapting to the conditions and winning 11-3. Did Corey just get lucky or blessed with all the good racks and his "goofy break" to win 11-3? Unbelievable. Corey would've beat him anyway. Go Corey.
 
Actually, Mika's only a "nice guy" if you happen to: a.) be a member of his close-knit circle of friends or he knows you well; b.) be a member of the press, an upper-echelon billiards/pool official, tournament director/promoter, or other official standing that behooves him to be nice to you.

Otherwise, you're just one of the "gray people" to him -- people in the background that mean nothing to him. Deity-complex big time.

-Sean



This seems spot on to me having been around Mika at the DCC so many times....7-8 years ago before he was winning and playing at his current level he was not as bad.

However, at DCC last year he came in and sit in front of me watching from the balcony above. He was sipping wine and having a good time it seemed. I leaned forward and congratulated him on winning the open and it was obvious that he could care less about about anything I said to him.....what a flake!!!


Gary
 
Mika like any other player has a 100% right to complain about a rack. I notice that people like to pile on to him due to their opinions of how he acts at the table as if it affects you personally. The outright bias against him is beyond ridiculous.

As far as his attitude goes, ignore the guy if he is that much of a dick. There is no rule that anyone has to be nice to another.
 
Agreed. You're going to love this... the finals will be rack your own. LOL, insanity!


My apologies. I was just informed that they changed their mind again. They were going to switch back to rack your own but then decided against it. It was good info when I posted it. :o
 
My apologies. I was just informed that they changed their mind again. They were going to switch back to rack your own but then decided against it. It was good info when I posted it. :o

If they would have changed there would have been a never ending controversy about it
 
This is for Mika's THIRD US Open Championship in a row, and definitely one of the biggest pool tournaments in the world. If the rack is off, the rack is off. He has every right in the world to be 100% SURE it's nice and tight. He's not "crying", he just wants a fair chance at playing his best pool, and a controlled break with a shot at your next objective ball is huge at this level...bigger than spectators or people on forums "crying" that he wants a rack done right.

Amen Evan you nailed it
 
I'm not a fan of hte magic rack, what if a ball stays on it? or the cue rolls over it? thats affects the shot.. but i digress..

That's exactly what I have been saying, and not one AZer can see this. All they can talk about is how great it is - like Jay H. the Delta rack lover. Were they using this rack in the Open? Last year all Barry could talk about was how great it was. Puke!!!!!

Now, like I have been saying in many threads, bring back the Sardo rack and we would be done with this crap. I will note also that not one person on AZ has agreed to this besides me as far as I know.

Accordingly, you billiards fans deserve this. It RUINS the whole US Open experience.
 
Now, like I have been saying in many threads, bring back the Sardo rack and we would be done with this crap. I will note also that not one person on AZ has agreed to this besides me as far as I know.

No disrespect, but Sardo wasn't a rack.
Sardo was smashing craters into the table when no one was looking, i.e. prepping the table (aka water dropper and pounding the balls into place), so that you could rack the balls without the sardo gizmo on top of it.
That gizmo was all for show.
The craters kept the balls in place.
 
WOW!
Someone get this man some tissues.
This is ridiculous!!!!

As far as i am concerned, neutral racker means NO COMPLAINING!!!

SHUT UP AND BREAK THEM!

If only someone could come up with a way to take all the controversy out of the break.....someone must have some good ideas to do this!!!!:(:o:wink::grin-square:
 
If only someone could come up with a way to take all the controversy out of the break.....someone must have some good ideas to do this!!!!:(:o:wink::grin-square:

There is a way to take controversy out of the rack.
Educate yourself on how to rack, and what each space in the rack means.

Sure, a perfect rack makes it easy, but if you KNOW the rack, and you know the dynamics of the rack and all it's little spaces, you can make a ball with almost any rack thrown up there in 9ball, unless it is a bonafied SLUG.

To me, most of the players crying about the rack, are spoiled.
They expect perfection, when perfection is not always possible due to table or equipment conditions.
This doesn't affect the players who actually understand the dynamics of the rack.
They just look at the rack, figure out where the spaces are, and how to beat them, and go ahead and break anyway.

If someone doesn't understand the rack, go out and learn, because more times then not, perfection isn't a part of the equation.
And if someone understands the rack, and still is crying about it, go jump into traffic.
 
If only someone could come up with a way to take all the controversy out of the break.....someone must have some good ideas to do this!!!!:(:o:wink::grin-square:

I guess you're talking about the guy who posts on a lot of threads recommending a system that combines (1) randomly placing the balls without looking and (2) the breaker shoots after the break regardless of whether a ball is pocketed or not, as long as he doesn't fall.

That seems overly complicated. If the goal is to reduce pattern racking and rack rigging while increasing the amount of strategy, one idea that came to me a while back is to have the breaker break the rack and then the players flip a coin to see who shoots after the break. You can mechanic up the rack all you want, but it's as likely to help you as hurt you.

Instead, players would probably work on developing a break that tends to leave a tough shot that they are particularly good at.

Note that I'm not recommending this (like alternating break format, it would eliminate the multi-rack packs), but it's one solution that seems likely to take the rack mechanic aspect out of the game.

Cory

UPDATE: Or you could just do what Superstar recommends in the post above this one.
 
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In past Opens it's been loser racks. It was HORRIBLE last year. The wasted time was ridiculous and pace of play pitiful. Some late matches went to like 3 am.

This year was MUCH better. I liked the winner racks and neutral racker on the last day, and everyone I spoke with liked it also.

Hats off for the decision to change it IMO.
 
No disrespect, but Sardo wasn't a rack.
Sardo was smashing craters into the table when no one was looking, i.e. prepping the table (aka water dropper and pounding the balls into place), so that you could rack the balls without the sardo gizmo on top of it.
That gizmo was all for show.
The craters kept the balls in place.

Is that a fact? Pretty crappy if it were true...:frown::mad:
 
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