You're a joke! There are at least five instructors on this very site that advocate CTE . I hope you bring a ladder to get out of the hole you're digging for yourself.
Why CTE is silly
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You're a joke! There are at least five instructors on this very site that advocate CTE . I hope you bring a ladder to get out of the hole you're digging for yourself.
No NO NO You were called out this time. You got asia and europe into the mix. Proof is on you.
I honestly think all of the discussion and debate concerning CTE could easily be put to an end with a very simple online video.
This video would show different views and close-ups (especially from above) that show exactly how a CTE user aligns, pivots, and strokes for a wide range of shots with varying cut angles. Then, it will be clear to everybody "how it works."
The video must clearly show the steps (alignment, pivot, stroke) and how they change with varying cut angle. The changes might seem natural and even subconscious; but with clear camera views, the differences from one shot to the next will be obvious, and this will conclusively prove how CTE works.
If we can agree on an "official" version of CTE, I would be happy to create and post a video showing how CTE works, by clearly identifying what changes from one shot to another. I first need a clear and complete description of the "official" version of CTE, accepted by most CTE proponents. If I need to wait for Stan's DVD, that's fine. If not, I hope somebody can post a simple explanation, or just clearly explain what steps are wrong and/or missing (and provide the correct information) for either of the two basic versions described here:
Regards,
Dave
This video would show different views and close-ups (especially from above) that show exactly how a CTE user aligns, pivots, and strokes for a wide range of shots with varying cut angles. Then, it will be clear to everybody "how it works."
The video must clearly show the steps (alignment, pivot, stroke) and how they change with varying cut angle. The changes might seem natural and even subconscious; but with clear camera views, the differences from one shot to the next will be obvious, and this will conclusively prove how CTE works.
If we can agree on an "official" version of CTE, I would be happy to create and post a video showing how CTE works, by clearly identifying what changes from one shot to another. I first need a clear and complete description of the "official" version of CTE, accepted by most CTE proponents. If I need to wait for Stan's DVD, that's fine. If not, I hope somebody can post a simple explanation, or just clearly explain what steps are wrong and/or missing (and provide the correct information) for either of the two basic versions described here:
Regards,
Dave
Well, I've heard conflicting descriptions from them. Didn't Stan himself post in this very thread (or the one in May, I think) that, "it came to him five months ago" as a revelation, what CTE finally WAS and how it should be used and taught?
Hal himself has had MANY self-contradictory posts. I forget which, it was either Spidey or JB, posted that Hal wouldn't REALLY talk accurately about CTE until after about 20 visits or so to him!
CTE has a BALONEY-INFUSED HISTORY! It's story and it's substance is a MASS of confusion, misunderstanding, and BALONEY.
....and about the BEST we hear about it now is: Well, the real secret sauce is SECRET--but soon it'll be for SALE in wide distribution.
What a pathetic joke... So far, from an objective point of view, everything about CTE looks more like a SCAM than an aiming system--although I honestly have no direct reason to cast scam aspersions upon particular people. Indeed, rather than an actual scam, it looks more like a mass delusion--like a bunch of people looking at a weather balloon and then afterward all INSISTING they saw a flying saucer.
GREAT POST!
OK, it's now been CLEARLY STATED: Let's have a demo of what CTE is, EXACTLY--and it will be posted on Dr. Dave's site for all the world to see and admire.
How about this . Wait till mid November and you can buy the DVD
No one on here that truly knows. Will post a video for you or other critics
. And there are only a few that know
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Thank you. You have also made some good posts; but mostly, you have created hurt feelings and distractions. Please try to resist to urge to continually add more fuel to the fire so we can actually get somewhere with this thread.
I am also offering to create and post the video. All we need to do is to settle on a particular version of CTE that is acceptable to most CTE proponents. Anybody willing to provide an improved description that corrects or replaces the versions posted here?
I look forward to helping to end all of this drama; although, I have to admit that I do enjoy it at times.
Still waiting for the description of a definitive version of CTE,
Dave
There was a video on youtube about basic cte aiming that gave people a good starting point on how do it, but it is no longer there and was made by a az member in this thread. I am pretty sure u seen it and were u not able to learn the basics from that video?
Diamonds are not a good way to measure misses. Two diamonds sounds like a lot, but from the very shallow angle where it's possible to hit that high up the rail and still have the ball go in, two diamonds from the pocket is 2 degrees or less from the pocket center. Since every degree is roughly 1 millimeter of contact on the OB (less for thinner cuts), those "two diamonds" still demonstrate millimeter precision. You'll also notice he shoots slowly and doesn't try it on sticky high-friction tables.
Robert
eezbank posted a CTE demonstration video a while back, and I have the detailed steps from that video posted here along with a recent clarification from eezbank; however, several people have claimed this is not the "official" version of CTE. My CTE resource page also includes a version from Spidey's blog, which seems closer to the "official" version; but several people have claimed there are also inaccuracies and things missing from this version. JB Cases and Spidey have also posted video demos of shots being made with their versions of CTE; however, these videos don't really describe or show what is really going on with the alignments and pivots and how they change with cut angle.
When an improved and complete written version is offered, I would be happy to film and post the "how it works" video I described.
Regards,
Dave
You guys keep speculating and guessing. Keep talking about posting youtube videos. Stan's video will be out and that should be the final word, imo..... not some random youtube videos.
hehe...I'm glad to find, once and for all, who the arbiter of "hurt feelings" really is on the forum. But I do wonder where you were at the start of the thread, when I was called every name in the book for the crime of posting an accurate Excel spreadsheet about pool; or where you were when Neil was posting the comments of his FAMILY MEMBERS about my intractable stupidity; or when Spidey was offering to "spoon feed" me arsenic. On vacation perhaps?
Noting though, how your public upbraidings always seem to follow my praises of you, I'll be certain to eliminate them from further posts--if only to protect MY feelings--which somehow, as I pointed out above, mysteriously seem to fly under your "hurt feelings" radar
Knowing though, how concerned you really ARE about people's feelings I was shocked by the ending of your post: "...drama; although, I have to admit that I do enjoy it at times."
If I didn't know better, I would have to interpret that to mean that not only do you ENJOY seeing the feelings of others take a good beating, but (from the evidence of this post), you like to do some of the beating yourself!
Seriously Dave, I think it's time for you to do a character check on yourself. Your insincere concern for "people's feelings" coupled with your willingness to attack those on your own side tend to make you look a little bit like a phony, even a MEAN phony.
And when your character check is finished, perhaps a re-reading of my own posts would be useful to bring you back to earth: the vast majority of their content is directed at exposing the inconsistencies of CTE and the defenses of CTE. If people's (hehe, i.e., guys who hang out in POOL HALLS!) feelings get hurt over that, then I welcome them to the world: when we're not careful with what we say, we easily end up looking foolish--and having hurt feelings.
Agreed. If Stan's DVD adequately defines a version of CTE accepted as "official" by most people, and if the DVD illustrates/demonstrates how the alignment and/or pivot change over a wide range of shots with varying cut angles, then all of this will become a moot point. If not, then maybe I'll look into posting a demo.
Regards,
Dave
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You should post a video anyways
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. Maybe I am just a "MEAN phony" after all (or as some people might say: a "MEAN phony CRAWFISH"). :frown:hehe...I'm glad to find, once and for all, who the arbiter of "hurt feelings" really is on the forum. But I do wonder where you were at the start of the thread, when I was called every name in the book for the crime of posting an accurate Excel spreadsheet about pool; or where you were when Neil was posting the comments of his FAMILY MEMBERS about my intractable stupidity; or when Spidey was offering to "spoon feed" me arsenic. On vacation perhaps?
Noting though, how your public upbraidings always seem to follow my praises of you, I'll be certain to eliminate them from further posts--if only to protect MY feelings--which somehow, as I pointed out above, mysteriously seem to fly under your "hurt feelings" radar
Knowing though, how concerned you really ARE about people's feelings I was shocked by the ending of your post: "...drama; although, I have to admit that I do enjoy it at times."
If I didn't know better, I would have to interpret that to mean that not only do you ENJOY seeing the feelings of others take a good beating, but (from the evidence of this post), you like to do some of the beating yourself!
Seriously Dave, I think it's time for you to do a character check on yourself. Your insincere concern for "people's feelings" coupled with your willingness to attack those on your own side tend to make you look a little bit like a phony, even a MEAN phony.
And when your character check is finished, perhaps a re-reading of my own posts would be useful to bring you back to earth: the vast majority of their content is directed at exposing the inconsistencies of CTE and the defenses of CTE. If people's (hehe, i.e., guys who hang out in POOL HALLS!) feelings get hurt over that, then I welcome them to the world: when we're not careful with what we say, we easily end up looking foolish--and having hurt feelings.
BTW, I agree than many posters have been mean to you also, but I think most people reading this entire thread will see you more as the instigator, regardless of who may have "started it."
Again, I think you have a lot to offer to this forum. You seem like a smart man, and you have good insights at times. But until you become a better "citizen" of AZB, not many people will listen to you (although, I do).
Regards,
Dave
I probably will, but only after I'm sure I know the details of the "official" version of CTE.
Regards,
Dave
I agree.
Dr. Dave's video = free.
Stan's video = $40.
I know which one I'm gonna look at first :wink:.
Maniac (FTR, I may eventually buy Stan's DVD if enough good things get said about it by the right people)
You'd get what you paid for - no offense to Dr. Dave. I hope he would work with the info for a period of time before posting anything.
Really, Neil? Let's review:
I guess you're right, Neil, your reply did go right over my head, because that sounds like nothing but a bunch of irrelevant whining to me.
My bad (I guess).
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