butterfly splice

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whammo57

Kim Walker
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When doing a butterfly splice is it easier to do the splice when the wood is square or after it is turned round?

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You can do butterfly's on a forearm in the mill in a indexing head. if you want to do a fullsplice style cue the wood needs to be square , how else can you index there is no other way. I just built a jig to do such a thing take round and tapered pieces and splice them. D Hill

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Very nice looking Jig, there Darrin. Thanks for the pictures. I have thought often on making something that can do that, but as with a lot of things, not enough time in a day so I keep putting it off. Maybe this winter, now that I have a model to use. Thanks again
Dave
 
Dave38 said:
Very nice looking Jig, there Darrin. Thanks for the pictures. I have thought often on making something that can do that, but as with a lot of things, not enough time in a day so I keep putting it off. Maybe this winter, now that I have a model to use. Thanks again
Dave
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Thanks, hear is the mate this jig is the nuts.

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Again, thanks Darrin, these pics are awesome, and give much food for thought for us that are further down the ladder. I for one, really appreciate it. If I wasn't in the middle of trying to build my own thickness sander, and a really big job at my day job, I'd be building a similar jig pronto. By the way, is that a 1/2" or a larger blade on your bandsaw? I have a 12" craftsman that I've thought of putting a 5/8 or 3/4" on instead of the recommended 1/2" max by the manufacturer. There is enough room on the tire belt for them, just haven't gotten around to actually ordering a special size blade to try it, yet. Mine takes a 89-1/2" blade, a real oddball.
Dave.
 
I can do the butterfly splices in the round or square. The jig for doing them in the round takes one of my headstocks with front and rear chucks. That makes it a pretty expensive jig. But if I just borrow the head off of one of my Deluxe Cue Smith lathes for a few minutes I only have the expense of a dovetail bed top mounted to a board at an angle. It works for full splice v handles or for butterflies.
 
Dave38 said:
Again, thanks Darrin, these pics are awesome, and give much food for thought for us that are further down the ladder. I for one, really appreciate it. If I wasn't in the middle of trying to build my own thickness sander, and a really big job at my day job, I'd be building a similar jig pronto. By the way, is that a 1/2" or a larger blade on your bandsaw? I have a 12" craftsman that I've thought of putting a 5/8 or 3/4" on instead of the recommended 1/2" max by the manufacturer. There is enough room on the tire belt for them, just haven't gotten around to actually ordering a special size blade to try it, yet. Mine takes a 89-1/2" blade, a real oddball.
Dave.
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Dave, I use to run 3/4 inch blades , there's no need they wear out just as fast as the 1/2 inch blades. I found the 1/2'' blades are much quieter and smoother running . I have had every bandsaw blade under the moon. don't wast your money on carbide blades , I paid over $150.00 and they suck. it wore out faster than a cheap one. I buy starrett Bie metal blades from Enco for under $15.00 bucks they work great. my old jet has an odd size 82.5'' when I bought my new Grizzly I made sure it was a common size. D Hill
 
cueman said:
I can do the butterfly splices in the round or square. The jig for doing them in the round takes one of my headstocks with front and rear chucks. That makes it a pretty expensive jig. But if I just borrow the head off of one of my Deluxe Cue Smith lathes for a few minutes I only have the expense of a dovetail bed top mounted to a board at an angle. It works for full splice v handles or for butterflies.
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When I started this jig the first thing I did was set my small indexing on the bench. I found I could not get 1.350 through it and the collects are all to small. your set up would work great. D. Hill
 
i used to do them in the square
switched to doing between centers in the round a couple years ago

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hillscues said:
Dave, I use to run 3/4 inch blades , there's no need they wear out just as fast as the 1/2 inch blades. I found the 1/2'' blades are much quieter and smoother running . I have had every bandsaw blade under the moon. don't wast your money on carbide blades , I paid over $150.00 and they suck. it wore out faster than a cheap one. I buy starrett Bie metal blades from Enco for under $15.00 bucks they work great. my old jet has an odd size 82.5'' when I bought my new Grizzly I made sure it was a common size. D Hill
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Will Enco weld Starrett blades to length? I bought an odd ball size 16 Grizzly and the Starrett blades I am using from MSC are 1/2" too long and I can barely get enough tension on them. MSC use to weld blades to length, but now they no longer will do it. The Grizzly blades have a horrible weld in them that gives an awful bump evertime it passes through the work piece. I settled in on 3/4" blades mainly because they walk less when cutting Ivory. But I once saw a guy at Grizzly in Springfield, MO cutting thin veneers off of a Walnut looking log really smooth with a 1/4" blade. I am talking about 8 inch wide cuts as smooth and straight as you could ever ask for. I was very surprised as I could never get those results with my saw.
 
cueman said:
Will Enco weld Starrett blades to length? I bought an odd ball size 16 Grizzly and the Starrett blades I am using from MSC are 1/2" too long and I can barely get enough tension on them. MSC use to weld blades to length, but now they no longer will do it. The Grizzly blades have a horrible weld in them that gives an awful bump evertime it passes through the work piece. I settled in on 3/4" blades mainly because they walk less when cutting Ivory. But I once saw a guy at Grizzly in Springfield, MO cutting thin veneers off of a Walnut looking log really smooth with a 1/4" blade. I am talking about 8 inch wide cuts as smooth and straight as you could ever ask for. I was very surprised as I could never get those results with my saw.
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I believe they do mine was welded , well come to think about it I ordered the size from a part number and than they weld it, the weld was vary good by the way. they might if you call them , I'm going out to the shop and I'll look in the catalog to see what systems they offer.
 
Darrin,

Those bandsaw blades you use are the nuts and cut like butter, Thanks for tuning up my bandsaw and installing one. Can you say hot knife thru butter without vibration? I can now.

Thanks,

Rick

I call Darrin's new full splice "Rev 3 Jig" for the lower joint with the centering dowel "The Duck Billed Platypus Jig" Quack Quack. Where Charles Darwin when you need him.:killingme:

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