Cleary how would you shoot this shot? it looks like its etc from the left side? thanks eezbank :thumbup:
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Aiming Voodoo Video
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Is this the moderator with this kind of nastiness?
What's your point Mike?
Should I coddle posters more?
If someone is here to do no more than stir the pot, they are unwelcome.
Should I coddle posters more?
If someone is here to do no more than stir the pot, they are unwelcome.
Can you provide a link to your post?
The ETC line for both shots is also the same angle and length from cueball to objectball, meaning you would have to use different pivots for each shot. Do you consider the pocket and potting angle before you pivot?
first shot looks ete from right side.
second looks like etc from right side.
it would be a lot easier to tell standing over the shots to know 100%...ijs
Cleary - the best system to not scratching is to always send the CB over the center point of the table.
i did notice my scratches went up when i "first" started using cte/pivot system, which i quickly fixed. Anyone else notice this?
left edge to centre with eyes to the inside of the cue pre pivot.hip pivot.....shoot.....in the hole!!:thumbup:
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You see Mike, like aiming systems it's a matter of perspective. I don't know what Pat said because I can't see it but don't you think that perhaps it would be nice for once just to allow people who want to discuss these things in peace a chance to do so?
Someone shared an article from 1995 where it's pretty clear that the pros also use a lot of different "methods" and systems to aim. It's also clear from my research that people have been figuring out all sorts of different ways to aim in pool for more than a hundred years.
So to me we can go two directions, if you don't agree with a particular method then you can spend a lot of time arguing against it and these threads can all be about pissing contests where no one benefits OR you could just allow the people who want to hash it out amongst themselves do that and see where they go with it.
I think we have tried plenty of the first option. How about we try a little of the second and see where some positive conversation and experimentation goes?
You see Mike, like aiming systems it's a matter of perspective. I don't know what Pat said because I can't see it but don't you think that perhaps it would be nice for once just to allow people who want to discuss these things in peace a chance to do so?
Someone shared an article from 1995 where it's pretty clear that the pros also use a lot of different "methods" and systems to aim. It's also clear from my research that people have been figuring out all sorts of different ways to aim in pool for more than a hundred years.
So to me we can go two directions, if you don't agree with a particular method then you can spend a lot of time arguing against it and these threads can all be about pissing contests where no one benefits OR you could just allow the people who want to hash it out amongst themselves do that and see where they go with it.
I think we have tried plenty of the first option. How about we try a little of the second and see where some positive conversation and experimentation goes?
its normally because your giving the aiming/system to much attention.
just make sure the shots planned prior to starting your psr is the best advice i can give to anyone who tries 90/90
Regarding avoiding scratches Dr. Dave has an excellent section in his and Tom Ross' Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots on center table paths. 25 years of playing and I never thought of this nor was I ever taught it. It's made a huge difference in my game by knowing how to take the cueball through the center of the table.
http://dr-dave-billiards.com/veps/disc_II.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OD5TsWrByI&feature=related
http://dr-dave-billiards.com/veps/disc_II.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OD5TsWrByI&feature=related
eyes to the inside of the cue? are there rules to this, inside or outside sighting on different shots?
I snoozed. I losed?
Is the pulled thread viewable somewhere on this site?
Other closed threads appear to be... is the original Voodo Aiming thread available to read? (Last time I checked about three days ago it was getting warm, but hadn't reached open flame yet--now it's gone.)
I was going to catch up today since it's raining in SoCal. Yes, RAINING.
Did anybody archive the thread? Any link available to us, tech challenged old guys?
Thanks
Is the pulled thread viewable somewhere on this site?
Other closed threads appear to be... is the original Voodo Aiming thread available to read? (Last time I checked about three days ago it was getting warm, but hadn't reached open flame yet--now it's gone.)
I was going to catch up today since it's raining in SoCal. Yes, RAINING.
Did anybody archive the thread? Any link available to us, tech challenged old guys?
Thanks
i have seen that clip before jb and thought is was valuable info also :thumbup: i thought the scratching was do to the system and how it worked someway...ijs
Here's the article:
I thought the main point of the article is that most pros don't really use "aiming systems." They just rely on ghost-ball visualization, "seeing" the angle of the shot, and feel-based judgment reinforced by a consistent pre-shot routine and lots of practice.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks for the mention John.
The 45-degree rule for center-table position routes was one of the many things I learned from Tom while working on VEPS.
It most certainly is a GEM ... Tah Dah!!! :grin-square:
Regards,
Dave
