Unknown "monster" players
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Who is Vernon Reid? The Vernon who has been spoken of here is Vernon Elliot.
I'd say he's in his mid 60's. He has a pool room in Russellville.
Okie players
Yes, James was very strong. He's still around Okc. And SUPPOSEDLY is starting to play again. Hell you can never believe what comes out of most players mouth. Mark Demick helped James learn a lot when he first started playing. Mark is a Trick Shot player and referee. I've seen him reffing on ESPN. Mark plays in our leagues and is very knowledgeable and heck of a nice guy. Pretty strong, very analytical. Norman Hitchcock was a monster player and anyone in OKC knew him and played with him. He helped lots of shooters but did have some demons running around in his head. Norman was quiet and hard to talk to in his late years. RIP Hitch.
Yes, James was very strong. He's still around Okc. And SUPPOSEDLY is starting to play again. Hell you can never believe what comes out of most players mouth. Mark Demick helped James learn a lot when he first started playing. Mark is a Trick Shot player and referee. I've seen him reffing on ESPN. Mark plays in our leagues and is very knowledgeable and heck of a nice guy. Pretty strong, very analytical. Norman Hitchcock was a monster player and anyone in OKC knew him and played with him. He helped lots of shooters but did have some demons running around in his head. Norman was quiet and hard to talk to in his late years. RIP Hitch.
Tony Watson
I have heard Tonys name several times in this thread and finally someone said Little Tony Watson. I think he came through OKC. Many years ago when he looked to barely be of age? Very small, shoulders about 14 in. Wide. Looked like he was 14 years old. Seemed to have a foxy lady about 30 years old with him. Unbelievable player! Could this have been the young man I saw?
I have heard Tonys name several times in this thread and finally someone said Little Tony Watson. I think he came through OKC. Many years ago when he looked to barely be of age? Very small, shoulders about 14 in. Wide. Looked like he was 14 years old. Seemed to have a foxy lady about 30 years old with him. Unbelievable player! Could this have been the young man I saw?
Denny was hardly unknown among the players. He was a legend!
This just might be the last photo of them taken together. From the Derby 2007. I gave them a few copies, and had them sign a few for me.
Lived in Myrtle Beach back in the 80's and knew Hughey,love to play bar pool right handed till everybody quit then he would switch to left handed,not many knew he was left handed!:wink:
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"Fat" Harold Dollar was a hellva player back then. Oh, and he lived in Sanford...lol.[/QUOTE]
Saw Fat Harold once at a tourney in Jackson NC,man he had a smooth stroke,nice guy also
Saw Fat Harold once at a tourney in Jackson NC,man he had a smooth stroke,nice guy also
There is a road player running around Birmingham, Al. from S.Carolina so I'm told. He says his name is Donny, he's 5'8 mid 40s to early 50s about 150-165lbs with a grey hair and goatee and a pretty good looking brunette named Lisa running with him. Anyway he plays jam up, he stands up right with a loose slippery closed bridge stroke and strings racks together effortlessly almost as if he's free popping. Don't know if it is even his real name but I threw out a fair description, he plays a champion speed from what I saw, he ran a few 9's over giving them the 7.
I've seen Dave in action on a few occasions... Definitely a very good player... Nice guy and fun to gamble with...
Great thread, I read all 35 pages and while some great players were named, I'm going to cast another vote for Vernon Elliot. He is known now, but when he was in his prime very few people knew who he was. Also he didn't stay home and wait for the action to come to him he went looking for the action, high stakes action.
He wasn't just under the greatest players of his time, he was every bit their equal, or beyond. Let me give you some examples of people he played and beat, I'm sure you will recognize their names.
I saw a few of you mentioned Jr. Harris, a fine player to be sure. Well according to Jr., Vernon beat him five games of one pocket for $200, or $300 a game I can't remember which. Jr. said he never had a shot and never won a game.
Cliff Joyner played Vernon around the same time he was One Pocket World Champion. Vernon beat him four games in a row for several hundred a game. Cliff said he never had a shot and never made a ball.
When Ronnie Allen was in his prime he spotted Vernon 9-8 in 1-hole. Vernon robbed him. Then they played even for two, or three days even and broke even.
Larry Lisciotti once walked into the Parkmore Bowling Lanes in Louisville, Ky (Vernon Elliots home base). It was around the time of his 1976 World Open Pocket Billiard Championship Challenge of Champions victory. Vernon said 'Hello Larry' Slightly surprised Lisciotti replied 'You know who I am?' Vernon said 'yes, are you looking for a game' and to make a long story short he beat Larry at 9-ball, Bank & One Pocket out of around $4000. Then Larry suggested they play 14.1 to 300 points double or nothing. Vernon beat him at that too.
Vernon said the toughest game he could remember was against Allen Hopkins when Allen was in his prime. They broke even.
Remember folks, before the above mentioned players played Vernon, they didn't know who he was. He never once played in a tournament, not even a small local one. If Vernon wasn't the greatest 'Unknown' monster of all time then whoever is, is still unknown.
tl;dr Get your lazy butt back up there and start reading. Its a good story.
Very nice first post Nate.
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Anyone ever hear of Terry Porter? He is an older fella from my hometown in Muscatine, Iowa. The way people talk he was a great player back in his day. I believe he grew up in southern Missouri as a kid. Any info or stories would be great to hear.