Think I found a reason why it's better to use outside english on cut shots

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You would think my last name is Mubarak the way I'm being attacked in here.

The only reason you are being attacked is because of your clear lack of interpersonal skills and generally annoying insights. Do you remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? You should because your living it and your opinion is no longer respected, wanted, or required. I personally enjoy reading the wealth of knowledge that is willingly shared on this site. The vast majority of posters here are incredibly open and helpful because that is what this place is about. As far as you being "worried" about giving away a competitive advantage? Based on your previous posts that ship has sailed far far away with your dignity chained onboard. If you actually have a valid insight or question post it. If not, stop wasting all of our time with these personal questions of character (or lack thereof).
You created this reality so you don't get to ***** about it. Welcome to your own well deserved personal Hell.
 
1. It has already been discussed on AZB. Please do not punish us further because you cannot be inconvenienced to search and/ or read all the posts.

B. There is no one way to shoot all cut shots.

Primarily: There should never be allowed a pushout in a pool game.

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I feel I might have stumbled on a reason why it's better to use outside on cut shots, like many do.

I am fearful to share this, because if I actually am right, I don't want to help out my competition.

I'm sure I am not the first to come up with this reasoning, but I don't think it's been shared here as far as I can tell.

What to do......
 
The only reason you are being attacked is because of your clear lack of interpersonal skills and generally annoying insights. Do you remember the story about the boy who cried wolf? You should because your living it and your opinion is no longer respected, wanted, or required. I personally enjoy reading the wealth of knowledge that is willingly shared on this site. The vast majority of posters here are incredibly open and helpful because that is what this place is about. As far as you being "worried" about giving away a competitive advantage? Based on your previous posts that ship has sailed far far away with your dignity chained onboard. If you actually have a valid insight or question post it. If not, stop wasting all of our time with these personal questions of character (or lack thereof).
You created this reality so you don't get to ***** about it. Welcome to your own well deserved personal Hell.

I already posted my thoughts and reasoning. You didn't even bother to reply? I don't think I came up with anything new, I just haven't come across anyone else explaining it before.
 
And for what it's worth I did use the search function. My apologies for not going through all of the 1,000 pages that it gave me.
 
No No my reasoning is the relative differences in the amount of throw on a thick hit and a thin hit.

If the amount of throw on an equally overcut and undercut shot is the same, the margin of error will be the same.

The margin of error I gain on the thick hit is greater than the margin of error I lose on the thin hit.

Dr. Dave help me they're like Egyptian protestors today.

Your post really boils down to shot making with outside english.
Distance,speed and how your shaft deflects the ball and where the cueball needs to be will have everything to do with pocketing the ball.
 
Tell that to the CTE crowd too.

I've asked Dr. Dave to take over on this thread. You would think my last name is Mubarak the way I'm being attacked in here.

I do appreciate all the information that people share here. It might not be in my best interest to start trying to help other players, I need all the edge I can get.

PocketPoint:

I gotta ask... gosh darn it, I HAVE to ask. What are you doing here? What is your purpose with these threads that seemingly "innocently" ask a question; you get called out on your intentions; then you back-pedal (seemingly to try to make those that called you out look like they're "mistaken"); but then finally, you show your true colors (e.g. the "I need all the edge I can get" type comments)?

I mean, what's the deal? You make the Mubarek comment, but seriously, are you "into" causing rancor? Are you "into" the John Belushi "Food fight!!!" and-then-leave-the-room-deal?

Help us out here. We'd like to understand you.
-Sean

P.S.: and why start a thread, only to want to have someone else "take it over"? No accountability?
 
The problem here is that you have admitted to being a new player... you have said that you don't know much, and that you aren't that good...

Then you say that you have found out something new. New to you, yes. New to others, No.

That is why you are getting flack.
 
Your post really boils down to shot making with outside english.
Distance,speed and how your shaft deflects the ball and where the cueball needs to be will have everything to do with pocketing the ball.

ok what you posted right there is meaningless. i am talking about the difference between shooting the shot with center ball and outside english.

I am claiming outside english on a thick hit will increase your margin of error more than it will decrease the margin of error on a thin hit.

And I am claiming this because an OB obtains more throw on a thicker hit than a thinner hit.

What you are talking about is so general it doesn't mean anything.
 
Well I'm heading out to practice, we'll discuss this more when I'm back.

Take a guess at what kind of shot I'll be practicing?

Who cares? You aren't listening to what the posters say on here and are not taking the time to read the thread(s) that has been listed. jsp was even nice enough to point out specific posts within a thread to you including the first and last page lol. How long until you create another thread stirring a different pot?
 
Well I've repeated my reasoning 3 times and no one has said a word about it good or bad.

I havn't been here much lately, and I'm not sure who you are, but, like Dave said, nothing new has been "discovered" about game in 100 years. Skid, CTE, collision induced throw, etc.....is not new, it just gets re-hashed in different terms IMO.

now, why, in simple terms is it easier to make a ball with outside or helping spin?

lets take a cut shot to the left, and you use right spin......that will put a clockwise turn on the OB which will, if undercut, spins the OB ball down the rail at a shallower angle making the ball......if over cut in the same example, the OB will first hit the left side of the pocket with the same clockwise spin sending it into the right pocket face spinning it into the pocket. That, along with the extra bonus of avoiding a skid using outside spin, is a three fold reason why outside/helping spin helps make a ball.

again,nothing new here, this was all probably known by cavemen.

G.


p.s. this is also why bankers aim to OVER cut banks.....it does the same thing as using outside spin! try it for yourself and see.
 
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