Bumping Etiquette Question...

Kickin' Chicken

Kickin' Chicken

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I don't do much on this wanted/for sale forum though I did sell a Capone here a couple of weeks ago and I have posted a few WTB messages.

I have noticed that some members are bumping their for sale threads multiple times per day and I wondered, is there a rule for how many times folks should be bumping their stuff to the top.

It seems like a bit of a free for all at times and it strikes me as possibly unfair that some, seemingly reputable sellers, have their items pushed to the back pages fairly fast.

So, while I'm sure this subject has come up on here before (often?) I still want to ask; what is the currently accepted etiquette for bumping your threads?

Best,
Brian kc
 
This is not new, i have seen lot of sellers bumping their thread a lot in one day. Some given warnings and other are deleted. but for me 1 bump for day is enough...too much bump still will not help but give people a sense of annoying while searching...

More powers to all,
Al
 
Most civil folks agree more than 1/day is excessive. Some users I have noticed bumping (or "adding information") up to 7x/day. These (L)users have been added to my ignore list.

-s
 
Bumping is a way to keep the post in view. I wish folks would bump every 5 minutes, that would be like a flashing screen for us to watch.

Chronic Bumpers sing the "Me, Me, Me" song, while they bump.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
I don't do much on this wanted/for sale forum though I did sell a Capone here a couple of weeks ago and I have posted a few WTB messages.

I have noticed that some members are bumping their for sale threads multiple times per day and I wondered, is there a rule for how many times folks should be bumping their stuff to the top.

It seems like a bit of a free for all at times and it strikes me as possibly unfair that some, seemingly reputable sellers, have their items pushed to the back pages fairly fast.

So, while I'm sure this subject has come up on here before (often?) I still want to ask; what is the currently accepted etiquette for bumping your threads?

Best,
Brian kc
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if ya cant beat 'em , join 'em ???????? :idea2:

yeah, some it has gotten totally out of hand
pm'ing you now :wink:
 
The for sale forum is so active that it might not hurt to have a few sub-forums. Maybe ones for cues, tables, cases, accessories, lessons/instruction, etc.

I am not really a seller so I don't have a real strong opinion on this. I would imagine the active sellers on here scan the WTB threads fairly regularly so if I post that I'm looking to buy something I imagine it will get seen. But I do like to check out the cues for sale and you have to wade through a lot of pages just to pick out the ones that are for lumber.

It seems that with all the threads and bumpage in the WTB/WTS forum that a thread gets buried in the back pages pretty quickly. It also may be the reason that some sellers feel the right to pitch their wares in the main forum. I absolutely refuse to buy anything posted in the main forum because I consider it rude and blatantly unfair to all the other sellers who play by the rules. But if there were some sub-categories then threads wouldn't get buried so quickly and people wouldn't have to bump them 5 times a day or skirt the rules.
 
Bump Artists

ronshirley said:
Bump to the top :wink:
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There is no method to the madness of bumping!!! :) In theory, say we set
limits to bumps per day or whatever time-line you would like. (ex. only 20
bumps per week/per thread) ... Any community of sneaky petes would find a
way around it. Say you would start a thread, I'm your buddy, I let your
thread reach page 2, I bump it with a random question, "Hey, is that a 5/16-
14 thread??" You as the seller wait for the thread to reach page 2 again,
and you answer, "No, its a 5/16-18 thread." Page 2 is reached a 3rd time,
then the seller bumps the post for the so-called 1st time.

Take comfort in the idea that you are not alone with this bumping issue.
But what if this is as good as it gets? :frown:

Ryan

Post Note:
I vote Yes for what Kickin' Chicken seconded below from what DogsPlayingPool said above!
Sub-Catagories are the answer.
 
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I think DPP brings up a very good point that maybe sub-forums should be created for the WTB/FS Forum. Maybe start by splitting WTB from For Sale?

Cues and cases / Tables, lights, wall racks, and chairs / Other

The problem is probably a good one, too much volume.

It's human nature that if there isn't a hard and fast rule with penalties attached, people are going to want to keep their ads 'fresh'.

Splitting them into sub forum categories could be the answer.

Something should be done, IMHO.

Best,
Brian kc
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
The for sale forum is so active that it might not hurt to have a few sub-forums. Maybe ones for cues, tables, cases, accessories, lessons/instruction, etc.

I am not really a seller so I don't have a real strong opinion on this. I would imagine the active sellers on here scan the WTB threads fairly regularly so if I post that I'm looking to buy something I imagine it will get seen. But I do like to check out the cues for sale and you have to wade through a lot of pages just to pick out the ones that are for lumber.

It seems that with all the threads and bumpage in the WTB/WTS forum that a thread gets buried in the back pages pretty quickly. It also may be the reason that some sellers feel the right to pitch their wares in the main forum. I absolutely refuse to buy anything posted in the main forum because I consider it rude and blatantly unfair to all the other sellers who play by the rules. But if there were some sub-categories then threads wouldn't get buried so quickly and people wouldn't have to bump them 5 times a day or skirt the rules.
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Good post.

If I had my druthers, there would be separate forums for 'buying' and 'selling', possibly even for 'cues' and 'non-cues'.

The good deals go quick, and the average deals for good items always find their way back to the top. I figure it's time to bump when you've dropped down to page 4 or further (basically, no activity in 24 hours). But I also like the fact that Mr. Wilson is just letting us moderate ourselves in this section unless a flame war starts.

Speaking of, I think one of the people you're complaining about should be popping in any minute to give you a wrist-slap for posting in HIS classified section. :wink:
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
The for sale forum is so active that it might not hurt to have a few sub-forums. Maybe ones for cues, tables, cases, accessories, lessons/instruction, etc.

I am not really a seller so I don't have a real strong opinion on this. I would imagine the active sellers on here scan the WTB threads fairly regularly so if I post that I'm looking to buy something I imagine it will get seen. But I do like to check out the cues for sale and you have to wade through a lot of pages just to pick out the ones that are for lumber.

It seems that with all the threads and bumpage in the WTB/WTS forum that a thread gets buried in the back pages pretty quickly. It also may be the reason that some sellers feel the right to pitch their wares in the main forum. I absolutely refuse to buy anything posted in the main forum because I consider it rude and blatantly unfair to all the other sellers who play by the rules. But if there were some sub-categories then threads wouldn't get buried so quickly and people wouldn't have to bump them 5 times a day or skirt the rules.
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+1 for having subforums in the for sale section, it would definitely be a lot easier in browsing
 
bumpage

There is an entire thread here somewhere or another that talks about having a sub catagory with a lot of good ideas that would work better than the current set up. For whatever reason, nothing has become of the ideas or at least it doesn't look that way now.

I, for one, will bump an add a few times in a week. In a matter of days, your items will be 5-6 pages deep. I will bump something if the price has changed, items for sale have changed, any new information, or to just get it out in front to be viewed. I don't think it is too excessive, but, there is probably better ways of getting better advertisement. The problem with this is that it only takes 10-15 folks on here to think the same way, and before you know it, page 6-7.
 
Break it up into subcategories

I agree this should be splitup into subcategories.

I think a wanted to buy section would be nice, they just get lost among all the listings from sellers.

I think 1 bump a day is plenty (although I have surpassed that some days:o). On the weekends it can be more than 7 pages a day on this forum. Just burries everything.

Also it would be nice if the sold items would be removed from the listings. Nothing worse than finding the cue of your dreams and learning it sold last week.
 
When I see an item with a multitude of posts and views and its still for sale, that tells me its over priced or possibly not desirable. I look for items with fewer posts hoping to find a good deal before the masses see it and someone snaps it up.

Excessive bumping can hurt a sale and make a seller look like a fool.

I have seen forums where bumping is banned altogether. (KTMtalk)

Sub categories make perfect sense to me too.
 
another factor that causes threads to sink so fast is the sellers who start 6, or 8, or 10 separate threads to sell their wares. multiply that by only 3 sellers doing this, and everyone else is starting off on page 2.

if you have 5 items for sale, list them in the title of ONE thread, do not start 5 threads.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
I think DPP brings up a very good point that maybe sub-forums should be created for the WTB/FS Forum. Maybe start by splitting WTB from For Sale?

Cues and cases / Tables, lights, wall racks, and chairs / Other

The problem is probably a good one, too much volume.

It's human nature that if there isn't a hard and fast rule with penalties attached, people are going to want to keep their ads 'fresh'.

Splitting them into sub forum categories could be the answer.

Something should be done, IMHO.

Best,
Brian kc
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Well keep in mind chicken that creating subforums is more work for AZBilliards/forums. And given that many of the chronic bumpers are not even members I would be hardpressed to do any extra if the sellers can't help police themselves. Bumping is annoying but so is the shilling like when CCowboy follows every certain casemaker's post with a great......So how do you stop it. I say threads like this one is a start. Call out the chronic bumpers and suggest that anyone trying to make money on this forum should at least pay the annual membership. Then talk to somebody about doing more work to help the sellers.
 
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mlalum said:
Well keep in mind chicken that creating subforums is more work for AZBilliards/forums. And given that many of the chronic bumpers are not even members I would be hardpressed to do any extra if the sellers can't help police themselves. Bumping is annoying but so is the shilling like when CCowboy follows every certain casemaker's post with a great......So how do you stop it. I say threads like this one is a start. Call out the chronic bumpers and suggest that anyone trying to make money on this forum should at least pay the annual membership. Then talk to somebody about doing more work to help the sellers.
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P.s. I just did a quick scan of the sales threads. It took me to the 11th OP from the top to find somebody who was a forum member.
 
too much bumping

There is a forum that I belong to that will only let you bump a thread once every three (3) days and the FS/WTB ads cannot be replied to directly, except by a PM to the seller. I like the fact that it eliminates the buddy bumping, and keeps the most recently posted ads near the top of the pile for at least a day or two. They also have sub categories for different things to eliminate having to wade through a ton of junk that you aren't interested in. While this might be an inconvenience to create sub categories for the forum creators, I think the end product makes it much better to navigate.
 
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Is it really that much work to create cub-forums on a website? I'm not asking to be argumentative, I'd just really like to know. I'm not all that savvy on this intraweb thingy all the kids are using these days, but I didn't realize there was that much to it and figured it was just a few mouse clicks and maybe a couple of lines of code but no big deal.
 
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