PJ - the reason you don't aim at a quarter with a cue at dead center is because an offset/pivot-to-center provides a different vector through the core of the CB--- it's a different aiming solution altogether.
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You must be talking about a different shot than LAMas was. He was describing how he gets to a "15-degree" cut, which requires the CB's center to be aimed directly at the OB's quarter. A different aiming solution (a "different vector through the core of the CB") would produce a different cut angle.
pj
chgo
Yes, subjective with the idea that if I decide to change to a bigger pivot sweep for whatever reason, I will consciously start the shot with this thought in mind. I will know then that my visual alignment must change and accordingly my shot setup. This comes with experience, not unlike placing your tip for spin on the cue ball.
The alignment points will still be used at a slightly different angle. My visual programming will automatically do this for me using my reference points as a baseline. 90/90 aiming is tailored for a half ball pivot, but a half tip pivot can also be used to pocket balls. You still use the same reference points with the adjustment visually and physically for the different pivot.
It's like choking up on the bat with two strikes. You can still swing, but you might have to crowd the plate for that curve on the outside corner.
Best,
Mike
Yes, that's my point. The pivot is a "by feel" adjustment.
pj
chgo
Is it just me, or did this page get edited since this thread first started a month ago? I explicitly remember seeing the words "systematic" and "exact" in the description of the New CTE/Pro One Aiming System on that page. Curiously, those words seemed to have disappeared.
If those words were intentionally removed, then I applaud Stan (or whoever is in charge of the website) considering the claim that any pivot system is "exact" is false.
What answer PJ, your selective cutting and pasting doesn't always make sense. Cte covers all the angles necessary to play pool. Do you really think it only covers six angles? Learn with an open mind.
I watched the video and found it informative and I think sighting the lines on the object ball is a great thing, however I would agree with you that the pivot is a feel thing. The sight lines become very repetitive over time and make you feel extremely confident about pocketing the ball.
I still contend the greatest thing about this system is it makes me focus on the object ball before I get down. Too many times players (I) just get down on a shot then locate where the object ball must be hit. I think this system can benefit anyone, but will really helps those with a poor PSR.
Probably another 15 years.
CTE clearly describes alignments for only a handful of angles. You cover the rest by "pivoting", which you're convinced is not "feel", but you're unable to explain it any other way. The only apparent difference between CTE and Hal Houle's old "fractions" system is that the "feel" part is now called "pivoting". That seems to be convincing enough for CTE users.
pj
chgo
Same STUPID BS . You couldn't find your a$$ with both hands. I for 1 am SICK of this sh1t. So here is my thoughts on PJ=Troll, nothing more. If you dont understand by now you never will. Just because you and a few others CHOOSE to aim by other methods does not matter at all to me. Am I questioning your way ? Hell no. Bunch of GD drama queens. No one is
interested in your jabber. That is WHY you are here. Hope they put
your drama queen a$$ back under the rock they found you and some others
READ THE THREAD NAME GENIUS . Nothing to do with your DA subjects
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Why all the emotion, Petey? Is this a taboo topic in your AzB?
Where's the drama really coming from here? Chill out.
pj
chgo
It a handful of alignments, big difference. You pivot to center QB, if you want to say by feel who cares, its still to center QB.
Thanks, I seemed to have missed this page. It says...
Many of us would have absolutely no problem if the word "exact" is simply left out when describing these pivot aiming systems. It's simply a false claim.
One point doesn't define a unique line. When one says "pivot to center CB", it doesn't mean squat unless you first determine a unique pivot point. Otherwise, you have an infinite number of aim lines that go through center CB.
You're not very happy for one who has been "snapping off" tournament after tournament since speaking on the phone with Geno for a few minutes. This must be a bad PMS month, sweetie?
Hank = drama queen
Pat -- the six cut angles in each direction are, of course, after pivoting. In other words, if Stan's CTE could be performed in a robotically perfect manner (perfect visuals, perfect perpendicular slide into the face of the cue ball with exactly a 1/2-tip offset from center CB, perfect bridge length, perfect pivot to CB center), it would produce a particular line of aim. That line of aim might or might not pass exactly where it needs to (i.e., through, or very close to, the center of the ghost ball). If it does not, then the "feel" can be introduced in a number of ways, not just through the initial pivot. Perhaps the cue is pivoted again slightly one direction or the other. Perhaps the bridge hand is "deformed" slightly to create a different effective pivot point. Perhaps the bridge hand is moved slightly. Perhaps the player stands up and starts over, this time slightly modifying one or more of the prescribed steps before even getting to a pivot. ... and on and on.
I hope you take the time to view and analyze the DVD in the near future. That would certainly give you additional insights regarding the method. We who enjoy analytical observations and comments will appreciate your efforts.