Many pool players to return to pool

I've got a question.

Is there such a thing as a website that will host online private games for small fee?

In other words, instead of having a private house game, people could play each other online, with no strangers at the table. All the gambling would be done in private between themselves.

Hmm, I just might be onto something here. A poker website with a neutral dealer and a monthly subscription for the services. They would have no interest in the outcome of the game. :D
 
ShootingArts said:
JAM,

I've never even remotely considered red repping you before but that was just cruel! Vincent Price has been one of my favorite actors since coming home from school and watching the afternoon horror movie. Great in horror movies, great comedy, absolutely love The Raven with him Bela and Peter Lorre, and did pretty good as a serious actor. Comparing a politician to him is just deeply deeply wrong! I guess I'll admit I'm laughing as I type this but Boris, Bela, and Vincent were the big three of horror movies that I watched as a young'n.

I still remember my first horror movie, The House of Wax, with Vincent Price. It was so scary that I hid behind a big arm chair to watch it. Didn't help any that it was 2AM and I was living in a huge haunted antebellum home at the time.

Hu
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Just don't eVer see Conqueror Worm if you enjoy Vincent.
 
chefjeff said:
House on Haunted Hill (the original version) was the nuts.

The acid pit is the basement is better than building a deck by the pool, imho.

Jeff Livingston
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I loved all his movies, but the Conqueror worm was sooooooooo bad. When I first saw it, I completely blocked out the movie from my memory I hated it so much only too. 25 yrs later I picked up this same movie not realizing what I had done till the first 5 minutes, I took it back with a good laugh.
 
Is there such a thing as a website that will host online private games for small fee?
In other words, instead of having a private house game, people could play each other online, with no strangers at the table. All the gambling would be done in private between themselves.



The online poker site PokerRoom (www.pokerroom.com) which left the U.S. Market about the same time as Party Poker used to let you create private cash games or tournaments. You could either give your friends a passcode or anyone could P.M. you asking to be allowed. Im pretty sure that you could also create private games for play money. Despite banning U.S. citizens from their real money games you can still play play money there. Several years ago I was at a multi-day pool tournament and a few people had someone hold everyone's cash and then they all went back to their respective hotel rooms and met at the same play money table on one of the sites to duke it out. I have no idea how it happened but the site figured out what was going on and closed several of the players accounts, I guess the sites do not like to provide rake free real money poker games. If they would accept a fee for providing the game then it would be fine I suppose. This might make home games quite a bit easier. No cleanup, no angry spouses, no cheating, no need to travel, no need to dress :), etc, etc. You would have to either trust the people your playing with to settle up later, or have someone hold the money before hand though
 
From here:

Writes a friend:

I’ve been playing online poker for a living for the last five years. The government might think they can shut down the industry, but they can’t. As John Gilmore famously said, “The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.” Poker Stars was taken down for US Players on April 15th. It’s taken me less than a week to set up a virtual private network (vpn) that makes it look like I’m playing from another country, acquire a foreign PO Box, obtain a Skype virtual foreign phone number, and deposit money onto a foreign site that doesn’t accept US players. Now I’m back in business!

As the US and other governments attempt to further restrict the online activities of their subjects (I refuse to call us citizens), I expect to see increasing use of vpns, encryption, untraceable virtual currency, anonymous remailers, etc. It’s an arms race between the factions of freedom and tyranny, but unlike most conventional arms races, this seems like one that the good guys are the favorite to win.​


Jeff Livingston
 
Much of the math being quoted here, alleging incentive for the government to get their piece of the pie, does not work. Hoping to fund the proposed budget cuts or wipe out the deficit? Don't think so.

Let's go with the common estimate I've read for what the top poker sites have pulled down - $3B.

Proposed budget cuts = $100B/year. Divide that by $3B/year and it would take 33 years of poker revenue to fund one year of cuts. Hmmm.

Current Federal deficit - $14T. Divide that by $3b/year and it would take...welll....ummm......4,6667 years to pay off. Yeah. The deficit grows by more in one day ($4B+) than we are talking about for one year of poker revenue.

Granted, the gub-ment may try to pass this off as a way to fix the deficit ills as a political ploy. But it would be a total mis-direction.

Scott <<== bringing geekdom to the discussion :thumbup:
 
just a drop in the bucket

ScottR said:
Much of the math being quoted here, alleging incentive for the government to get their piece of the pie, does not work. Hoping to fund the proposed budget cuts or wipe out the deficit? Don't think so.

Let's go with the common estimate I've read for what the top poker sites have pulled down - $3B.

Proposed budget cuts = $100B/year. Divide that by $3B/year and it would take 33 years of poker revenue to fund one year of cuts. Hmmm.

Current Federal deficit - $14T. Divide that by $3b/year and it would take...welll....ummm......4,6667 years to pay off. Yeah. The deficit grows by more in one day ($4B+) than we are talking about for one year of poker revenue.

Granted, the gub-ment may try to pass this off as a way to fix the deficit ills as a political ploy. But it would be a total mis-direction.

Scott <<== bringing geekdom to the discussion :thumbup:
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Scott,
You are right, just a drop in the bucket. Kinda like when the government made less than four hundred million in budget cuts, projected them to last for many years and claimed huge cuts. In truth they spent about the amount of the cuts while they were talking about making cuts. Sounded good though. Their math goes like, we planned to spend 15 trillion and now we only plan to spend 14.5 trillion so we saved five hundred billion dollars!! Everybody is supposed to be thrilled with the savings.



Jeff,
Almost everybody playing poker is aware of the work arounds. I considered it for about two minutes. However, right now playing internet poker is very much a gray area, laws have been stretched to define it as illegal gambling. A fair chance that the DOJ has overreached. However, if playing is eventually found to be illegal then going to elaborate efforts to conceal your play is basically an admission of guilty knowledge.

That is what at least two of the poker sites appears to have done, accepted that internet poker and the transfer of funds into and out of the US was illegal and went to great and almost comical efforts to circumvent the obvious transfer of funds. They would have been far better off legally to have simply used a single shell at each level like the other big operations do. Hard to say they didn't think they were doing something wrong when they played these elaborate games.

I had money at two of the sites. One just sent me an e-mail that my money is safe and secure. It is, but in government frozen accounts so "safe and secure" doesn't mean that I'll ever see it again. Another site says that US customers can no longer play for cash there. We can't move money in or out or transfer it between accounts other than across a poker table but I still play for cash there with no issues. The country this site is based in says that the poker entity is operating legally and the US is the one in defiance of international accords. I don't expect vast assistance in any prosecution of this entity or the seizing of it's accounts.

Fortunately I am a moderately successful poker player so all that is at risk is my initial deposits at each site. I suspect that I may never see any funds I win where I am playing now while any money I lose is largely meaningless too since I am unlikely to ever withdraw anything successfully. On the other hand it is entertaining to play and I have a paper value building there. Odds against but I may cash out someday.

Hu
 
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