What do you think of Southwest Cues?

Sure, you and everyone else can have an opinion.....they're like a-holes after all. But you know what......some sure do stink an awful lot more than others.

The BIGGEST and STINKIEST A**hole is the one who
resorts to name calling when they don't get their way.

Off to "Super Ignore" YOU go ... and, don't forget to
take that Southwest Cue with you.
 
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Here's the contact info ...

Anybody know how long the current wait is for a Southwest?

You may just want to phone Laurie and ask the question.
I have been told that "once in a while" they have an extra
Cue available for immediate sale. Who knows, you may get lucky.
 

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You may just want to phone Laurie and ask the question.
I have been told that "once in a while" they have an extra
Cue available for immediate sale. Who knows, you may get lucky.

Thx for the contact info Str8PoolPlayer. Will definitely give her a call. Always wanted to own a southwest.
 
The BIGGEST and STINKIEST A**hole is the one who
resorts to name calling when they don't get their way.

Off to "Super Ignore" YOU go ... and, don't forget to
take that Southwest Cue with you.

What name calling? What way?

OK, goodbye then.
 
One, they are not overpriced. They are highly valued, with good reason. Their value, admittedly high, is set by the market, not by an arbitrary measure. So they bring a high price because the buyer is aware of SW's legacy of quality and performance. Overpriced? Hell no. As with most things, you get what you pay for.QUOTE]


Quoted for Truth

And I have to laugh at the complaints on the 10 year wait. Put your name in, no deposit, wait in line, get cue. Don’t like cue? Flip cue for profit. Don’t see the bad in that.

So Nitro make a decision on SouthWest cues yet?
 
I have owned 6 Southwest Cues

I have been to their shop and met Laurie and Jerry. Jerry was busy working on cues the day I was at their shop, and Laurie has always been polite. I bought 3 new cues from them and a used one. One of the 3 new ones was a fancy cue and played the best of all. The butt also warped on the fancy cue. I also bought a new Southwest from Vince Tedesco. It hit like a steel pole. I think these cues are over priced, and the wait is ridiculous. If I owned some Southwest cues, it would be logical for me to defend the inflated prices that they bring. My fancy Southwest is not the only Southwest I have seen with a warped butt. The other one was a 60 in. plain jane birdseye. It could have been a pacifier. I found out the hard way that you can get a cue that plays really good for a fraction of the cost of a Southwest, but to me profit is not a dirty word, so good for Southwest. Keep those prices high, and the dollars rolling in.
 
Sw 1991

Mine turns 20 in June. I bought it from a pool hall owner who always had a few cues on order for eventual sales. He never saw the cue. So, even though I didn't order it, I am the only owner. It feels lighter than the 19.9 oz that it is. Great cue. Not over-hyped IMHO.
 
Yeah indyq is a great website if you don't mind dealing with ass that triple over charges for his cues. I emailed Roy about prices on his SWC I got a reply that the price was $3,850 and this was a normal run of the mill SWC, 6 point, double veneer, rings only at top & bottom of the cue. I also asked about the solid Cocobolo cue with no points but it does have rings in all positions and he replied that SWC was $3,950. If you question him on why his prices are so high on his SWC he begins to rant and rave about how many SWC he has sold, the guy IMO is an ashole and I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

Funny... I had the exact same experience with him.

Ray
 
What is your opinion on there overall performance, quality, value, and anything else you feel a potential customer of theres should know, good or bad, just looking for data.


Thank You

Simon

Been playing with mine since 1991, but really only fell in love with its hit and feel after I convinced Jerry to make me birdseye pro taper shafts for it ("soft" in his opinion - he understood but didn't agree with my wish/choice, but the shafts he made are perfect). Has remained dead-straight, no complaints whatsoever, except perhaps that for a relatively short-fingered player like myself, who also happens to grip the butt at the far wrap end, the butt diameter is slightly on the thick side of the spectrum.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
sqw

They're way over rated usually heavy plain jane design, and not worth what they get for them. There is hardly any work put into them
 
They're way over rated usually heavy plain jane design, and not worth what they get for them. There is hardly any work put into them

The contrary is true! They are expensive, maybe too expensive, but as to work, you're alluding to design/inlays only, of which one can have as much as one is willing to pay for (there are fancy Southwest cues, make no mistake about that). The reason these cues play so well, and stay straight forever, is in the handling of the wood, however. I personally find it a saddening phenomenon of modern times that no amount of work that isn't visible to the naked eye seems to be worth much anymore - and I mean in general, not just as far as custom cues are concerned. But I'm old-timey… :embarrassed2:

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
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They're way over rated usually heavy plain jane design, and not worth what they get for them. There is hardly any work put into them

Both mine were not over rated, nobody who played with mine didn't like them. They were not heavy, both had points and trim rings and the second one had three veneers. The curing of the wood and attention to detail are two of the reasons they hold their value.
Sorry, fail.
 
They're way over rated usually

No, they are not over-rated. They are sought out by top players because of their solid, consistent playability.

heavy plain jane design,

No, most of the cues built are the classic 6-point design that SW made famous, and so many others have tried to copy, but they are not plain, IMO. You can have one built pretty much however you want it, but you will need to get your checkbook out.

and not worth what they get for them.

The market sets the price for them. They are what they are, and bring whatever the market says they will bring.

There is hardly any work put into them

There is a TON of work put into them. I have visited SW cues a couple of times. They do everything the old fashioned way...no computers, no CnCs...all hand-built...the entire SW "factory" consists of 3 people who have been there forever.


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Not True

Oh, come on. The reason they stay straight forever is because people molly-coddle them because they are multi-thousand dollar pieces of wood that they had to wait seven years for.

I have flown almost a million miles with my SW. It has been in every type of climate including quick climate changes and its been dropped on about everything including gravel.

I play, break, and jump with it and it is still perfectly straight and hits great.

And its a fancy ivory cue that I've turned down $15K for.

I've seen a lot of fancy cues by other makers that look worse, are coming apart, and/or are warped. And they haven't experienced anywhere near the abuse my cue has.
 
Oh, come on. The reason they stay straight forever is because people molly-coddle them because they are multi-thousand dollar pieces of wood that they had to wait seven years for.

Like mine with which I've been playing with for 20 years? Like my buddy's who's played 19 and 18 years with his, respectively?

As for playability, I have hit with a few and they seem exactly like what they were--two damn pieces of wood held together by a screw.

So much the better: would be a pity if they played like a one-piece broomstick, wouldn't it?

Playability is something that was invented by some dude who wanted to justify spending more than he should have on a cue.

In other words, you find it impossible to tell apart one cue from another? What should that tell us about cues?

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
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I have flown almost a million miles with my SW. It has been in every type of climate including quick climate changes and its been dropped on about everything including gravel.

I play, break, and jump with it and it is still perfectly straight and hits great.

And its a fancy ivory cue that I've turned down $15K for.

I've seen a lot of fancy cues by other makers that look worse, are coming apart, and/or are warped. And they haven't experienced anywhere near the abuse my cue has.

Now this is precisely what I'm talking about. Admittedly, mine could use a refinishing job for optical reasons, but after 20 years of use, most other cues would have warped, fallen apart etc. From that perspective alone mine would have been worth every dollar. But then, everyone who's ever tried it wanted to keep it - not because it looks all that great no, because of the way it plays.

Greetings from Switzerland, David.
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„J'ai gâché vingt ans de mes plus belles années au billard. Si c'était à refaire, je recommencerais.“ – Roger Conti
 
Well, nobody told you that they didn't like them, anyhow.

You ever have a friend who was talking about his prized possession? Ever not like that prized possession? I'm betting so. Did you tell that person that you didn't like it?

It is like the ugly baby thing. That baby may look like a monkey with fetal alcohol syndrome, but you only tell the mother that it is precious and cute.

dld

Oh, please, these were not just my friends. I've always told people what I've thought of cues when they asked me and I was asked often. I've never been afraid to speak my mind, as many here can tell you. I've had people tell me they didn't like Southwest cues but they didn't tell me that about mine, they didn't play with mine.
Don't be so damn cynical!
 
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