Laminated Shaft by Dufferin

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stlerdave

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Anyone that can help with any info on these would be great. Two piece cue looks like there are 4 laminated strips of wood in the center. Was told Dufferin did some work with this type of shaft possibly in the 70-80s era.
2 piece with wrap and green maple leaf, no points just solid wood and a short ferrule. Stainless joint with thread in the shaft. I will try to get good pics as to show the laminate. Very straight and hits very well.

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Dufferin has been building these shafts since the late 70's or early 80's. The ones I have seen were not Plywood, they were Maple, and I suspect that the shaft above is also Maple. In addition the ones I have seen were still straight after all these years, to my knowledge Dufferin may have been one of the first to use Spliced / Laminated shafts.

Oh and by the way, if it is still straight it will make a real nice player and certainly looks to be in great condition. I suspect this cue was made sometime during the 1980's, and all in all it is great find, enjoy your cue.

To my knowledge!!
 
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I have one similar to this one. Mine has no wrap. But it has a red maple leaf instead of a green one. What is the difference between red and green maple leafs?
 
measureman said:
I have one similar to this one. Mine has no wrap. But it has a red maple leaf instead of a green one. What is the difference between red and green maple leafs?
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That is one question I can't answer, I have also seen both. I hope some one who knows will contribute to this thread.

Take care
 
Couple small points.

FYI - the joint is Alum - def NOT stainless steel.

IMHO - I strongly suspect the wrap was added, not original.

Dale
 
pdcue said:
Couple small points.

FYI - the joint is Alum - def NOT stainless steel.

IMHO - I strongly suspect the wrap was added, not original.

Dale
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Dale I have seen them with and without a wrap, I think they made them both way, but the joint is Aluminum.
 
manwon said:
Dufferin has been building these shafts since the late 70's or early 80's. The ones I have seen were not Plywood, they were Maple
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Plywood is not a species. It refers to thin sheets of wood that have been glued together, usually forming sheets. Maple plywood is actually pretty common, especially in cabinetmaking. :p
 
These are the squares that those shafts were made out of. They are 16 plys per inch. Dufferin did not make a large number of them but they keep popping up every now and then. I have about 2000 of the squares that I bought when Dufferin went out of business.
 

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manwon said:
Dale I have seen them with and without a wrap, I think they made them both way, but the joint is Aluminum.
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Mine has an aluminum joint and no wrap. It has a red Maple leaf. And for a cheap cue (paid $20 about 20 years ago) it plays OK. I use it for a break cue.And its still straight ! I need to look at the shaft and see if its laminated. Never paid attention to that.
 
Sheldon said:
Plywood is not a species. It refers to thin sheets of wood that have been glued together, usually forming sheets. Maple plywood is actually pretty common, especially in cabinetmaking. :p
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These shafts are segmented pie shaped slices at least the ones I have seen, not flat laminated pieces but maybe they made both, I am uncertain.:)

I do have a little common sense, please give me some credit!!:D
 
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manwon said:
These shafts are segmented pie shaped slices at least the ones I have seen, not flat laminated pieces but maybe they made both, I am uncertain.:)
I do have a little common sense, please give me some credit!!:D
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Sorry, your post made it seem like you didn't think maple could be made into plywood, or that you thought plywood was somehow a type of wood.
The old laminated Dufferin shafts were maple plywood, NOT pie-type laminations at all. As you can see in the post Mase made. ;)
If they laminated them any other way, I've never seen or heard of it.
 
Plywood uses layers of wood oriented so that the grain runs 90 degrees from the layers above and below any given layer. Laminated wood has parallel grain layers. That's according to the FAA repair manuals such as AC43-13.
 
Sheldon said:
Sorry, your post made it seem like you didn't think maple could be made into plywood, or that you thought plywood was somehow a type of wood.
The old laminated Dufferin shafts were maple plywood, NOT pie-type laminations at all. As you can see in the post Mase made. ;)
If they laminated them any other way, I've never seen or heard of it.
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Thanks for the information, but I have seen one that was Pie Laminated similar to Predator.

Take care
 
Lexicologist71 said:
Plywood uses layers of wood oriented so that the grain runs 90 degrees from the layers above and below any given layer. Laminated wood has parallel grain layers. That's according to the FAA repair manuals such as AC43-13.
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Good to know! Looking at the pictures Mase put up, can you tell if it's laminate or plywood?
 
I've had some customers that for whatever reasoning collect these cues (probably due to affordability, but some like the way they play), and I have restored or fixed more then a few, and have seen quite a few over the years, and I believe some may have came with a wrap, but could not be certain that they were not added on later. not sure about the radial shafts, but I have seen the flat laminated shafts. I had one guy that managed a car dealership, and owned about 6 Dufferins of various design, and 2 or 3 of the shafts were flat laminate. I've had several customers that owned 1, 2 or 3 of them, and have seen the shafts on some of theirs as well. I can remember first seeing them and being surprised when I noticed the shafts were made that way.
 
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