North Dakota JOBS

I'm only 120 miles from either Plentywood Montana or the ND border.
Maybe Mike will hire me as a cook and I can work for table time.
I can whip up a mean home made Kraft Dinner in no time at all.
They don't call me Mr. GastroPub for nothing.
 
I'm only 120 miles from either Plentywood Montana or the ND border.
Maybe Mike will hire me as a cook and I can work for table time.
I can whip up a mean home made Kraft Dinner in no time at all.
They don't call me Mr. GastroPub for nothing.

Mike's place is the place to be although making $15 an hour working at McDonalds sounds pretty good too. After Katrina, we had fast food workers making "good" money but I think that's all gone now. To get by now, you either have to get a good education (in a select field), move to North Dakota or become a pool player.
 
I spent one winter in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. It sucked, a lot, and people there used to shake their head and say "Screw that, its too damn cold" whenever the North Dakota winters were discussed.

Unless you have lived with that type of cold its really hard to understand it. I had a little taste of it and screw that noise. Working outside in in construction or the oil fields in 40 below may pay damn good money but I'll never know.
 
I spent one winter in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. It sucked, a lot, and people there used to shake their head and say "Screw that, its too damn cold" whenever the North Dakota winters were discussed.

Wimps.

Dave, a few hundred miles north
 
I grew up in Ohio, where we also have bitterly cold winters. I left for the sunny climes of Southern Cal as soon as I could. That said, if I needed a job I would go to N. Dakota in a minute. Good jobs, cheap housing, low cost of living! I guess I don't understand people today. So many prefer unemployment income, disability or welfare to working. I have yet to collect any of the above at any time in my life. I always could find a way to make a living, even if it was as a handyman, mover, or yes, even playing pool. ;)
 
Justin, we are a little north of Sd and ND, Montana. We often trade weather back and forth. Its not uncommon to have 50 plus below winter temps with the wind chill factor.

Today, its pushing 100 degress with the humidex and people are b itching.
Oh, its so hot, I can't stand it. Wait 9 months for it to be sweltering and then complain. I'll never understand people and the weather.

BTW, I'm loving it. I can find more ways to keep cool in the summer than ways to keep warm in the winter.
I'd love to be in CA or NV all year round.
 
Justin, we are a little north of Sd and ND, Montana. We often trade weather back and forth. Its not uncommon to have 50 plus below winter temps with the wind chill factor.

Today, its pushing 100 degress with the humidex and people are b itching.
Oh, its so hot, I can't stand it. Wait 9 months for it to be sweltering and then complain. I'll never understand people and the weather.

BTW, I'm loving it. I can find more ways to keep cool in the summer than ways to keep warm in the winter.
I'd love to be in CA or NV all year round.

Come on out! We have an opening. :D
P.S. Housing prices are at rock bottom levels in Nevada right now. Formerly large homes (over 3,000 sq. ft.) with pools etc, that used to sell for 350-400K can be had for 150K now. Many nice condos in the 60-75K range. I think they are #1 in foreclosures now, so the banks are giving stuff away to get out from under.
 
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Oil du Jour

Is working in the oil fields brutally hard work? I love the cold, and wouldn't mind relocating.

I was trying to make up my mind about what I was going to do after graduating from high school. It was the beginning of a long hot summer which I was used to. When another pool friend suggested that we could get a job as "roustabouts" working in the oil field for "good money", I almost shouted yes. My buddy and called and sure enough they needed "roustabouts" whatever the heck that was. We showed up at the dock early one morning for a two week stretch working in the oil fields. We heard the food was great and while the hours were long (12 hours a day) we were young and healthy.

Our first job was carrying these extremely long, HEAVY, timber boards. I couldn't call them lumber because they made me think of large Cypress Tree timber that hadn't been cut in several hundred years. When we picked up these water soaked pieces of timber that seemed like they were 20 foot long, it took all the strength I had to get the darn things up on my shoulder for carrying through the marsh. We struggled and managed to carry several of them before practically collapsing. The next job we had wasn't quite as strenuous. All we had to do is clean a filter. Now in the oil industry, 40 years ago, you can imagine what a "filter" looked like. This particular filter was about 20 feet long. (Everything looked really big back then. It was before the marines beefed me up and got me into shape). The diameter of this tube shaped filter was about 8 foot and there was a hinged door that sealed the filter. We were ordered to remove the existing filter material which amounted to the thickest hay-like material you have ever seen. It was like indestructible seaweed, only pitch black from the oil that it filtered. At first, we had these little pitchfork like shovels and we would reach through the narrow opening and drag out several ounces of this material at a time. After what seemed like an eternity we could no longer pull the material out of the tube. That's when we were told we needed to climb inside of the filter to get ALL of the filter material out. We did as we were told but it soon became quite clear that this was going to be a very dirty job. I thought to myself, so this is what a roustabout does for a living....... After what seemed like another eternity, we exited the filter, covered from head to toe in oil. Thick black oil from head to toe. Our clothes were soaked, our hair was soaked, every pore of our skin was soaked in heavy, thick, oil. We had earned a shower and we cleaned and showered for over an hour trying to remove the everlasting odor of oil du juor.

The two weeks passed quickly, eating delicious, high quality foods, as much as you could eat. All of the food was very tasty, even better than my mom's cooking. Out there, very little expense was spare for food, so we always had great meals, seven days a week. This part, I liked quite well. The rest, not so much. The hot summer sun stole our energy and the oil industry squeezed two weeks of our young lives about as hard as they could be squeezed. Martin and I returned to the city vowing never to return and we didn't. I'm sure because we were fresh meat and new to the environment, we were given the worst of the worst jobs, not just to test our resolve but also to give a little break to those who had gone before us. I'm sure we could have gone back and things would have gotten better but there was pool to be played, girls to be romanced and life to be celebrated. We did that for a while before noticing that there was a war going on and some of our friends were starting to disappear. A year later, I decided I wanted to join the marines like my brother before me. He had survived two tours of duty in Vietnam and I figured I could make it too. The bush of Vietnam wasn't a bed of roses and sometimes our baths were not much more than a dip in the stream we were crossing or maybe a walk through a rice paddy but at least we didn't have that thick, black oil oozing out of our every pore.

I hope this doesn't discourage you from giving North Dakota a try. I'm sure things have changed and you don't have to climb inside of oil filters like we did. From what I've learned about life is that you can get used to practically anything. I was never afraid to try something new and you shouldn't be either. Life is meant to test you and who knows, you might become one of those guys that loves the oil field work. The money is great, the winter is cold, the oil field work is tough, the cost of living is low, so what... give it a try and report back to us. :indecisive:
 
Jason, these days the guys are dressed pretty warm for the job. Being a roustabout or a roughneck (one step above a roustabout) can be brutally hard and dangerous. Lots of guys have lost fingers and hands throwing chains and tongs around pipe.

The rig pigs that I know work hard and play even harder. They are a different breed of cat.

Don't let that discourage you as there are many rig related jobs that pay as well as a deck hand. Camp cook, water truck drivers and equipment operators, parts men and runners.

I knew a water truck driver that made 30 an hour and more than that on over time. Multiply that by 7 days a week by how many weeks you're in camp and you can make a ton.

If you are serious, look into it. If you make it to ND, give me a shout as I am only a couple of hrs away from much of the drilling across the border. There is a considerable amount of drilling going on north of the border in the same area as well.
 
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Jay, used to be cheap to live there but now its not. If you can find a house or apt. your lucky and its 1000$ a month and up. The RV parks in Williston are a grand a month. I just took the box off my end dump and put a 5th wheel on to haul belly dumps. moved with my camp trailer to Sidney Mt. from Kalispell. $500 a month for a spot in a field with electricity and a real long hose to keep your tanks full. Not that I'm *****in'. I'm makin 90$ an hour. 10 to 14 hrs a day I'm pulling down a $1000 a day. BUT, i won't be staying past nov. I'm hauling ass home when it gets cold. I'll head back over next spring about May or June.
 
Jay, used to be cheap to live there but now its not. If you can find a house or apt. your lucky and its 1000$ a month and up. The RV parks in Williston are a grand a month. I just took the box off my end dump and put a 5th wheel on to haul belly dumps. moved with my camp trailer to Sidney Mt. from Kalispell. $500 a month for a spot in a field with electricity and a real long hose to keep your tanks full. Not that I'm *****in'. I'm makin 90$ an hour. 10 to 14 hrs a day I'm pulling down a $1000 a day. BUT, i won't be staying past nov. I'm hauling ass home when it gets cold. I'll head back over next spring about May or June.

You are a smart guy! How far South do you head in November?
 
Thanks for the comments Joey and Blue, those were exactly the responces I was looking for. It is not sounding too appealing to me now, but I still may look into it.
 
Housing is getting really expensive for sure. Western North Dakota is great for hunting but for year-round, outdoor employment.....have fun. The good news is you'll have plenty of time til winter before you have to worry about it. Bank a bunch of cash between now and Thanksgiving and you can always head back home and try it again next summer:smile:
 
I was trying to make up my mind about what I was going to do after graduating from high school. It was the beginning of a long hot summer which I was used to. When another pool friend suggested that we could get a job as "roustabouts" working in the oil field for "good money", I almost shouted yes. My buddy and called and sure enough they needed "roustabouts" whatever the heck that was. We showed up at the dock early one morning for a two week stretch working in the oil fields. We heard the food was great and while the hours were long (12 hours a day) we were young and healthy.

Our first job was carrying these extremely long, HEAVY, timber boards. I couldn't call them lumber because they made me think of large Cypress Tree timber that hadn't been cut in several hundred years. When we picked up these water soaked pieces of timber that seemed like they were 20 foot long, it took all the strength I had to get the darn things up on my shoulder for carrying through the marsh. We struggled and managed to carry several of them before practically collapsing. The next job we had wasn't quite as strenuous. All we had to do is clean a filter. Now in the oil industry, 40 years ago, you can imagine what a "filter" looked like. This particular filter was about 20 feet long. (Everything looked really big back then. It was before the marines beefed me up and got me into shape). The diameter of this tube shaped filter was about 8 foot and there was a hinged door that sealed the filter. We were ordered to remove the existing filter material which amounted to the thickest hay-like material you have ever seen. It was like indestructible seaweed, only pitch black from the oil that it filtered. At first, we had these little pitchfork like shovels and we would reach through the narrow opening and drag out several ounces of this material at a time. After what seemed like an eternity we could no longer pull the material out of the tube. That's when we were told we needed to climb inside of the filter to get ALL of the filter material out. We did as we were told but it soon became quite clear that this was going to be a very dirty job. I thought to myself, so this is what a roustabout does for a living....... After what seemed like another eternity, we exited the filter, covered from head to toe in oil. Thick black oil from head to toe. Our clothes were soaked, our hair was soaked, every pore of our skin was soaked in heavy, thick, oil. We had earned a shower and we cleaned and showered for over an hour trying to remove the everlasting odor of oil du juor.

The two weeks passed quickly, eating delicious, high quality foods, as much as you could eat. All of the food was very tasty, even better than my mom's cooking. Out there, very little expense was spare for food, so we always had great meals, seven days a week. This part, I liked quite well. The rest, not so much. The hot summer sun stole our energy and the oil industry squeezed two weeks of our young lives about as hard as they could be squeezed. Martin and I returned to the city vowing never to return and we didn't. I'm sure because we were fresh meat and new to the environment, we were given the worst of the worst jobs, not just to test our resolve but also to give a little break to those who had gone before us. I'm sure we could have gone back and things would have gotten better but there was pool to be played, girls to be romanced and life to be celebrated. We did that for a while before noticing that there was a war going on and some of our friends were starting to disappear. A year later, I decided I wanted to join the marines like my brother before me. He had survived two tours of duty in Vietnam and I figured I could make it too. The bush of Vietnam wasn't a bed of roses and sometimes our baths were not much more than a dip in the stream we were crossing or maybe a walk through a rice paddy but at least we didn't have that thick, black oil oozing out of our every pore.

I hope this doesn't discourage you from giving North Dakota a try. I'm sure things have changed and you don't have to climb inside of oil filters like we did. From what I've learned about life is that you can get used to practically anything. I was never afraid to try something new and you shouldn't be either. Life is meant to test you and who knows, you might become one of those guys that loves the oil field work. The money is great, the winter is cold, the oil field work is tough, the cost of living is low, so what... give it a try and report back to us. :indecisive:

Thanks Joey and thanks for your service. I did some time in the Army during Nam, but luckily I stayed stateside. I got the cush job of Supply Clerk.

My toughest gig ever was unloading freight cars in Oklahoma. They had us unloading cars full of sheet rock! Talk about back breaking work. I was young and dumb and didn't know when to stop. We got ten bucks an hour and I was thrilled. Worked all Summer and saved my dough so I could go back to my first love - POOL! :smile:
 
Is working in the oil fields brutally hard work? I love the cold, and wouldn't mind relocating.

I went out to the oilfield when I was 18 years old. I was a farmboy from Saskatchewan so the cold and work didn't really bother me.

My first job was doing exploration work(seismic crew) and was all right. Though the pay wasn't great. One sunday at a pool hall in lethbridge I got recruited to work as a leasehand on a drilling rig, my life was never the same.

At the time, oil prices were fairly low so we worked for whoever and wherever had work. The second year I worked for 6 different oil companies. Also it was tough to move up the ladder at the time. Frustrating after 3 years to only be a roughneck.

I left and went and drove a water truck for about 5 years, and this was quite possibly the easiest job known to man. The toughest part was staying awake for the entire 12 hour shift.

I went and did some other things, and ended up going back to a drilling rig six years ago. It's been the best desicion ever. Things were so busy that anyone with a brain and some work ethic can rise to the top. And once you start working motorman and above the pay start`s to get crazy. 30 an hour and up, 168 hours every two weeks with anything above 80 hours paid overtime. We get paid sub as well if were not in camp, which means you pretty well live for free. Plus 7 days off in a row.

What`s the downside, the work and elements can be harsh. But in reality it`s no harder than working in a factory making 12 bucks an hour. And the life as a rigger can be hard on the health. The first 5-6 years I don`t think I was sober for more than a few days the entire time. By the time I went back I had quit drinking and drugging and have finally been able to stash away some good money. Lot`s of righands fall into the trap of spending every penny in the casino and bar.

All in all, it`s been a pretty good life and would strongly encourage anyone to try it. It may be a culture shock at first, but once you get into a routine it`s just like any other job.

RC

eta Most of the camps have pool tables in the common areas.
 
Thanks for the response cashman. I figure if I try for this I might be able to do my part in helping out the cue market!
 
I went out to the oilfield when I was 18 years old. I was a farmboy from Saskatchewan so the cold and work didn't really bother me.

My first job was doing exploration work(seismic crew) and was all right. Though the pay wasn't great. One sunday at a pool hall in lethbridge I got recruited to work as a leasehand on a drilling rig, my life was never the same.

At the time, oil prices were fairly low so we worked for whoever and wherever had work. The second year I worked for 6 different oil companies. Also it was tough to move up the ladder at the time. Frustrating after 3 years to only be a roughneck.

I left and went and drove a water truck for about 5 years, and this was quite possibly the easiest job known to man. The toughest part was staying awake for the entire 12 hour shift.

I went and did some other things, and ended up going back to a drilling rig six years ago. It's been the best desicion ever. Things were so busy that anyone with a brain and some work ethic can rise to the top. And once you start working motorman and above the pay start`s to get crazy. 30 an hour and up, 168 hours every two weeks with anything above 80 hours paid overtime. We get paid sub as well if were not in camp, which means you pretty well live for free. Plus 7 days off in a row.

What`s the downside, the work and elements can be harsh. But in reality it`s no harder than working in a factory making 12 bucks an hour. And the life as a rigger can be hard on the health. The first 5-6 years I don`t think I was sober for more than a few days the entire time. By the time I went back I had quit drinking and drugging and have finally been able to stash away some good money. Lot`s of righands fall into the trap of spending every penny in the casino and bar.

All in all, it`s been a pretty good life and would strongly encourage anyone to try it. It may be a culture shock at first, but once you get into a routine it`s just like any other job.

RC

eta Most of the camps have pool tables in the common areas.

Ahhhhhh! There's nothing like the voice of experience.
 
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