Good luck getting a reply on this thread from the current ABPpros. :angry:
ABP boycotts Berhman's event
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Good luck getting a reply on this thread from the current ABPpros. :angry:
Spoken like a true politician. If you actually had felt bad for your conduct and actions you would have apologised to not only the fans but to Earl Strickland long before now. Now being the time you are looking for support in this venture is not the time to all of a sudden step up and say this. I'll leave my thoughts at that.
In my opinion on what you guys are trying to do is I hope you do create something good for this sport. You guys are the very best in the world and are a pleasure to watch perform any time you step on the table. And certainly deserve the best situation for yourselves, families, and young players comming up behind you. I do however wish you all could work out your differences and support the US Open this year but I'm not in any of your shoes to really know whats going on behind the scenes.
Good luck to the ABP and Barry on this. Hopefully everything in the future can become better for everyone.
Cool! Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it. :smile:
So which ABP pro are you?
JAM, Professional Railbird, Stakehorse, Personal Assistant, and Driver
Today, 04:33 PM
Several members of the Board of the ABP received a copy of this letter that I sent last month (before the BB thing blew up).
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ASSOCIATION OF BILLIARD PROFESSIONALS
I am watching with interest recent progress with ABP and the increase in membership.
I am a big supporter of the idea of a player's organisation and have many times gone on record with my views. But before you go any further I think that you should look a bit deeper at what you are trying to achieve as a body.
Although the concept is good I think that you are going about things in the wrong way. The way that you are structured is confrontational. This means that you are inviting problems with promoters and other organisation. You have experienced this already with the BCA and others.
To get round this you should look beyond the current setup. You need to be in control of your future. Not trying to force what you believe is correct on reluctant opposition.
The players organisation should be the ones holding the sponsorship contracts and the television contracts. Then they can decide on playing conditions, formats and prize structure.
OK maybe you don't have the personnel to do this. But get a commissioner with sports business experience to do it for you, you need to employ a tournament director and most definitely you need someone to give your PR and Publicity a professional look. These things cost money, so recruit more international members and charge a little more. This is an investment in your future.
Your own Pro Tour is an A1 Priority. A monthly series of events geographically spread (even if it is initially US Based) is not an impossible tatget.
I can help you to set this up at no cost to the association, getting only a commission from the sponsor and the international television distribution. I have many other ideas that would add to the power of the Association.
I am offering to do this because I believe that the existing hierarchy are holding back the sport and it is time to see changes. With many of the things that I see happening around me I can see no long term future for the game that we love.
But you must bite the bullet and act now.
I would love to hear your views on this. Tell me if you think that I am wromg but make the effort and respond to me. Most of the players on your board will get a copy of this letter so discuss it with the others. This could be your last chance to secure your future. I will not be repeating the offer.
Doug Gordon
Jun 6 2011
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So far I have not received one acknowledgement
Several members of the Board of the ABP received a copy of this letter that I sent last month (before the BB thing blew up).
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ASSOCIATION OF BILLIARD PROFESSIONALS
I am watching with interest recent progress with ABP and the increase in membership.
I am a big supporter of the idea of a player's organisation and have many times gone on record with my views. But before you go any further I think that you should look a bit deeper at what you are trying to achieve as a body.
Although the concept is good I think that you are going about things in the wrong way. The way that you are structured is confrontational. This means that you are inviting problems with promoters and other organisation. You have experienced this already with the BCA and others.
To get round this you should look beyond the current setup. You need to be in control of your future. Not trying to force what you believe is correct on reluctant opposition.
The players organisation should be the ones holding the sponsorship contracts and the television contracts. Then they can decide on playing conditions, formats and prize structure.
OK maybe you don't have the personnel to do this. But get a commissioner with sports business experience to do it for you, you need to employ a tournament director and most definitely you need someone to give your PR and Publicity a professional look. These things cost money, so recruit more international members and charge a little more. This is an investment in your future.
Your own Pro Tour is an A1 Priority. A monthly series of events geographically spread (even if it is initially US Based) is not an impossible tatget.
I can help you to set this up at no cost to the association, getting only a commission from the sponsor and the international television distribution. I have many other ideas that would add to the power of the Association.
I am offering to do this because I believe that the existing hierarchy are holding back the sport and it is time to see changes. With many of the things that I see happening around me I can see no long term future for the game that we love.
But you must bite the bullet and act now.
I would love to hear your views on this. Tell me if you think that I am wromg but make the effort and respond to me. Most of the players on your board will get a copy of this letter so discuss it with the others. This could be your last chance to secure your future. I will not be repeating the offer.
Doug Gordon
Jun 6 2011
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So far I have not received one acknowledgement
Doug, I remember when you wrote that letter. It is a shame nobody replied. I don't get it. You're offering to help. That offer deserves at least a reply, yea or nay!
REPLY TO DOUG, ABPpros!
Hmmm
Yep. I agree. Plus, I will add that Shawn was super cool at the Bad Blood event talking with fans after each days matches, signing anything, taking photos, etc. A good dude IMHO....
Yep. I agree. Plus, I will add that Shawn was super cool at the Bad Blood event talking with fans after each days matches, signing anything, taking photos, etc. A good dude IMHO....
JA- thanks for your questions. there is alot of unanswered questions. i have to go play a match so i will be back to answer some questions later today.
Mr. Duff
Registered
It's a good thing none of you are farmers! Try going to the bank and borrowing 100k, planting, fertilizing, etc, "hoping" that is rains and the sun shines so it will grow.......Ok now lets harvest, take it to market, and "hope" that its not too wet or you wont get paid as much. Live in "fear" for 6 days of not getting paid....wow! Our occupations are our choice! Now matter what your occupation is, you dont bite the hand that feeds you. It sure seems foolish to draw such a HARD line. By boycotting this event......no one WINS!
Cool! Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it. :smile:
So which ABP pro are you?
JAM, Professional Railbird, Stakehorse, Personal Assistant, and Driver
Its so sad to think that the starting point for our star players would be....going to a professional event and when its over, their reward is just wanting to be paid in full (Really)!!! That doesn't seem like a very tall order, pool is such a tough profession!
If it means going to an unseeded event it just proves...Whatever it takes, to turn things around the Pros are willing to try again!
No player is looking down on this problem, it is a huge mountain (always has been), the players need support and great leadership.
I for one am pulling for you guys!!!
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If this is indeed the case, then why aren't more of the top American players going overseas to play. Maybe that's Barry's fault too?
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Support the ABP!
No better way to show your support than putting your money where your mouth is folks! This is a PPV event, but I sincerely invite you to purchase it as I have to show your support for the ABP! Ya might even see some GREAT pool too! :thumbup:
http://www.ustream.tv/seminoleprotour
No better way to show your support than putting your money where your mouth is folks! This is a PPV event, but I sincerely invite you to purchase it as I have to show your support for the ABP! Ya might even see some GREAT pool too! :thumbup:
http://www.ustream.tv/seminoleprotour
12ozCurl
Banned
Sorry. I refuese to support the ABP. Its a principals thing. So long as they dont support the Amatures and Shortstops, I shall not support them.
Their actions so far have only served for the Betterment of "Top Pros" and not Cuesports as a whole.
Rock on!
No problem! We're all entitled to our own opinions. That's why were on this forum. We can agree to disagree and both support our chosen parties. I've gotten much love as well as much hate in support and opposition to my posts, but it's all part of life. We can't be all things to all people so I'll continue to do what I feel is right and you continue your path as well. I'm tired of arguing. Best of luck! :thumbup:
Johnny Archer vs. Alex Pagulyan RIGHT NOW! Just in case you opposers wanna cave in and watch something GREAT!
No problem! We're all entitled to our own opinions. That's why were on this forum. We can agree to disagree and both support our chosen parties. I've gotten much love as well as much hate in support and opposition to my posts, but it's all part of life. We can't be all things to all people so I'll continue to do what I feel is right and you continue your path as well. I'm tired of arguing. Best of luck! :thumbup:
Johnny Archer vs. Alex Pagulyan RIGHT NOW! Just in case you opposers wanna cave in and watch something GREAT!
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P.S. Tiger hasn't been playing and the televison ratings have NOT suffered! He missed the U.S. Open and will miss the British Open next week. What has happened in golf this year is the new young stars are taking over, and the fans love it! Ever heard of Rory McElroy? Or Rickie Fowler or Jason Day or Dustin Johnson? These are the new stars in professional golf.
Well, I don't think it takes a private jet or limo based on his estimate of $1,000 - $3.000. I don't think he is talking only the transportation but the transportation, hotel and meals. Therefore, I think it probably breaks down something like:
$400 - $1,000 - Airfrare
$460 - $1,050 - Hotel (range between $60 and $150 per night for 7 days)
$350 - $500 - Meals
I don't think their estimate is that far out of line.
HELLO, as a past champion Rodney pays no entry fee into the U.S. Open! Maybe Barry should rethink that policy as well. It's costing him many thousands every year and no one seems to appreciate that fact.
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