Has PJ risen from the dead once again?
It's good to see you back. :thumbup2:
Now be a good boy!
Regards,
Dave
Left eye dominant and keep hitting right
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It's good to see you back. :thumbup2:
Now be a good boy!
Regards,
Dave
LOL - not bloody likely!
pj <- bad boy
chgo
You have just discovered............
You have just discovered what it took me about a year and 400 lessons with Perfect Aim to figure out.
Especially if you are opposite eye dominant.
For some reason50% of the opposite eye dominant players flunk all the pointing tests and circle tests.
Example: Lets say you are left eye dominant but you are right handed. You probably bat right handed when you hit a ball. When you bowl your right eye is more over the right hand and the ball then the left. When you shoot a gun you put it under your right eye. You can do all these things because we can force the other eye to work as the dominant eye and in alot of cases it is the opposite eye that is still working as the dominant eye and you don't even notice it at all of switching it back and forth. Some things you do terrible at because it requires you to have the dominant eye in a certain position to really see what you are doing correctly such as a pool shot.
This is a whole new world that nobody has touched or figured out until Perfect Aim as far as successfully teaching players how to work with this and get the eyes in the most correct position ro see the pool shots correctly all the time.
A player can get there naturally from repetition. Shooting 8 hours a day or you can learn how to position the eyes correctly therefor you are practicing seeing the shot correctly all the time. The results are not only rediculously better but it is alot more fun being able to see what you are doing.
This is why some shots don't look right when we get down to shoot. If you don't know which eye is the dominant eye you don't know which way you need to force your vision to see every shot correctly. Without knowing it you sometimes make the non dominant eye work as dominant eye just a little. it doesn't take much, and the shot will srill look OK but it probably won't go.
The answers are all there with Perfect Aim. When I walk into a poolroom and there are 100 players in there all 100 players need to know this. Of course they don't know this and many of them play pretty good anyway. But every player on the face of the earth needs to know this to peak their ability to the highest level that they can.
I can talk and write words on the internet until the end of time but until a player experiences Perfect Aim and exactly how it works they have no clue about what I am talking about.
Once they do , it's like YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING !
You have just discovered what it took me about a year and 400 lessons with Perfect Aim to figure out.
Especially if you are opposite eye dominant.
For some reason50% of the opposite eye dominant players flunk all the pointing tests and circle tests.
Example: Lets say you are left eye dominant but you are right handed. You probably bat right handed when you hit a ball. When you bowl your right eye is more over the right hand and the ball then the left. When you shoot a gun you put it under your right eye. You can do all these things because we can force the other eye to work as the dominant eye and in alot of cases it is the opposite eye that is still working as the dominant eye and you don't even notice it at all of switching it back and forth. Some things you do terrible at because it requires you to have the dominant eye in a certain position to really see what you are doing correctly such as a pool shot.
This is a whole new world that nobody has touched or figured out until Perfect Aim as far as successfully teaching players how to work with this and get the eyes in the most correct position ro see the pool shots correctly all the time.
A player can get there naturally from repetition. Shooting 8 hours a day or you can learn how to position the eyes correctly therefor you are practicing seeing the shot correctly all the time. The results are not only rediculously better but it is alot more fun being able to see what you are doing.
This is why some shots don't look right when we get down to shoot. If you don't know which eye is the dominant eye you don't know which way you need to force your vision to see every shot correctly. Without knowing it you sometimes make the non dominant eye work as dominant eye just a little. it doesn't take much, and the shot will srill look OK but it probably won't go.
The answers are all there with Perfect Aim. When I walk into a poolroom and there are 100 players in there all 100 players need to know this. Of course they don't know this and many of them play pretty good anyway. But every player on the face of the earth needs to know this to peak their ability to the highest level that they can.
I can talk and write words on the internet until the end of time but until a player experiences Perfect Aim and exactly how it works they have no clue about what I am talking about.
Once they do , it's like YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING !
Hey Patrick! Nice to see you back.
Respectfully, I disagree with your synopsis above. Not with the "one's right eye is further to the right than the left eye" thing -- sort of an Eeyore-ism -- but rather with your understanding of what Bruce was trying to say.
I think what he was trying to say was that pivoting his body placement clockwise around his bridge hand (i.e. his bridge hand is the centerpoint), keeping his right arm frozen in place, it's natural that the body moves away from the right arm, in order that the cue itself comes to find itself under the left eye. That is, if the body rotates clockwise around the
bridge hand, with the right arm frozen in place, the right arm finds itself moving away from the body. The head finds itself moving to the right, with the eyes passing over the cue to the right, to finally end up with the left eye over the cue.
I do think it's more of how Bruce orients his body to the cue, than how he faces the shot. In Bruce's picture above, I actually see a bit of how Ralf Souquet does it -- his face turned to the right (as a result of his body oriented to the right), and his arm rotated away from his body:
The "left eye leading the right eye" (i.e. the face turned noticeably to the right, but looking left) thing is a dead giveaway of this rotated body position.
-Sean
I do think it's more of how Bruce orients his body to the cue, than how he faces the shot. In Bruce's picture above, I actually see a bit of how Ralf Souquet does it -- his face turned to the right (as a result of his body oriented to the right), and his arm rotated away from his body:
-Sean
I see what you're saying, but then he's not moving his arm to get his stick under his left eye, he's turning his head (and body) to get his eye over his stick. If he really moved his arm to do it he'd have to move it closer to his body, not farther away. And if he moved/kept his arm closer to his body he could get his stick under his left eye with less head adjustment.
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Wow Howdy stranger. I will give it a try. I have league tonight and don't want to try anything new today. I will start working on this tomorrow.
Geno I will give you a call for sure. Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday?
Dr Dave I looked at the link and read it and will re-read it.
My vision is a bit different than most. The Dr gave it a long name but My brain has trained me from before I could speak to use only 1 eye at a time or I see double vision. This happens some when I am extremely tired. I can use either eye of course but not both at the same time. My left eye is dominant as in I automatically use it most times.
Thank you everyone I will start working on this tomorrow
When that happens it makes you feel like you never played the game and is terribly frustrating isn't it. Just out of curiosity put your finger 1" from your nose and stair at it and change focus back and forth. Mine tremble.
smokey...Hmmm, that's sounds exactly like Mother Drill 4! Oh wait...that's because it IS! :thumbup: Hope you're doing well, my friend!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
8up...Unless you are actually closing one eye, you are still using both eyes to "see" the shot. You may 'favor' one over the other, but with both eyes open, your eyes triangulate past about 30" (within hands reach). Your dominant eye (if you have one...not everyone does) accepts visual information about 10/1000ths of a second before your nondominant eye...far too fast for the eyes not to work together. BTW, it is only necessary for you to "line up" the shot directly under your dominant eye, IF that's where you perceive a straight line (some people do...some don't). Like Dr. Dave said, and we teach, it is most important to line up the cuestick under wherever you perceive a straight line. It is far more important, imo, to have the skill to deliver the cuestick into the straight line you perceive.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
What's this suppose to mean?
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hey Randy...
are you telling me that scot put me all thru these drills for about 17 hours straight after which he got in his car and left for [i think] salt lake [from vegas] for G-d knows how long, or maybe it was Wisconsin and this wasn't drill #4?!?!?!?!
i can tell you this:
i have at least 2 hours of about 17 hours on dvd of me being tortured by scottie boy doing this drill #4.
what gives?
do i have your permission to torture him back?!!!!!
all the best,
smokey
are you telling me that scot put me all thru these drills for about 17 hours straight after which he got in his car and left for [i think] salt lake [from vegas] for G-d knows how long, or maybe it was Wisconsin and this wasn't drill #4?!?!?!?!
i can tell you this:
i have at least 2 hours of about 17 hours on dvd of me being tortured by scottie boy doing this drill #4.
what gives?
do i have your permission to torture him back?!!!!!
all the best,
smokey
Smokey include a picture of you and yours in that package please I want to see the little guy. I shoot a gun or bow equally well left or right handed.
8up,
I believe I know what your problem is. Take it with a grain of salt however as I am a neophyte when it comes to pool, however I am pretty good with a shotgun, and shotgun sports have very similar issues in this regard. What clued me in was your comment that when you get tired this monster can raise its ugly head. Keep in mind that your right eye may be dominate, however your left eye may be stronger(closer to 20/20). When you get tired your left eye may "take over", especially if you glance over to the pocket and it lies to the right of your line of sight (from the que to the object ball). If you sense that something is not quite right, stand back up and readdress the shot and /or get some rest. If you haven't already done so, get your eyes checked. Good luck, Steve
I believe I know what your problem is. Take it with a grain of salt however as I am a neophyte when it comes to pool, however I am pretty good with a shotgun, and shotgun sports have very similar issues in this regard. What clued me in was your comment that when you get tired this monster can raise its ugly head. Keep in mind that your right eye may be dominate, however your left eye may be stronger(closer to 20/20). When you get tired your left eye may "take over", especially if you glance over to the pocket and it lies to the right of your line of sight (from the que to the object ball). If you sense that something is not quite right, stand back up and readdress the shot and /or get some rest. If you haven't already done so, get your eyes checked. Good luck, Steve
Scott I have no doubt you could find a cure if I were there. My problem is different than a dominant eye as usually referred too. You live in MI where I spent most of my life. When you go to get your drivers license you have to look into a box and read the letters in the 3 boxes with 5 letters in each box that look something like this
AKLVD HJENK GOIFA
I can not see them all with out looking with one eye and then the other. Using my left eye i see
AKLVD HJENK ----- a blank box on the right
With my right eye I see
----- HJENK GOIFA a blank box on the left
DoubleD double vision is exactly what my dr said I would be seeing if MY brain had not rewired me to use only one eye at a time.
!00 % agree here Scott- well chosen words!
And this from a person, who has 120% a dominant eye- i m left eyed- my right eye is just kind of cosmetic. I can t read anything- i wouldn t be able to do anything with my right eye-almost blind here.
Usualy someone would say now: ALL POWER TO THE LEFT EYE- but that s nonsense. If i would close my right eye....i would miss balls-not able to seeing the straight line like i did before. Also a person like me is using BOTH EYES! My alignment is similar to Souquets alignment.
Also a great example is Nils Fejen- Similar problem i have! and watch WHERE HIS dominant eye is....you ll be wondering
lg
Ingo
Again: great posting Scott !!!
The idea that eye dominance, or its effect, changes over time due to fatigue adds a potentially important dimension to this topic (but apologies to all if it has been covered before and I have missed it).
How is this dealt with in shotgun sports? And does anyone know if this is a recognised phenomenon in other sports?