The most interesting UNKNOWN CUES you've come across.....

[cueaddicts]

I thought this might make for a good thread.

Who has some pics of really neat unknowns or cues that have not been positively identified yet. Let's see what you got and maybe try to limit it more to custom cues. (And maybe some of the board's experts can chime in and help identify...)

Sean

 

[shamadam]

Great post Sean! I'll go first..............

Still hoping for positive I.D. on this one.........

 

[qbilder]

Nice looking, well built cue.

 

[cueaddicts]

iirc, this one supposedly came out of southern CA. Note the brass joint pin (cut off straight) and also the thick rings. No ivory. Scans are all I've got at this time. The cue originally had virtually no finish and has been redone, along with a new bumper. Cue hits a ton...

 

[Hunter]

Here's one for ya, Sean. I never did find out the maker on this one. Is an extremely well made cue. The red acrylic ring around the bottom is like nothing I've ever seen. This cue has a strange joint. It almost looks like the pin was stripped, but that's not the case on close inspection. The cue appears as old as some of the first catalog Palmers I've owned and yet rolls straighter than ANY cue I've ever seen. I think the wrap is silk. Although it's no doubt an old cue, it has been made slightly over 59". When I bought it, I thought it might be a Doc Fry experiment, but after I received it, I had a Fry expert tell me it wasn't one of his. I have talked to a bunch of knowledgeable folks since I got it, but to this day I don't have a clue and have subsequently sold it to a collector who hasn't had any luck either, but I'd like to find out who made it for him...


Steve

 

[pooln8r]

Shamadam...I don't know who made that cue but I sure do like it! :thumbup:

 

[Nevaskard]

Dad bought this about 13-16 years ago from a guy that got it custom made! Please state if you know who built this cue! GD is all that it has on it!

 

[hitnrun]

The most interesting UNKNOWN CUES you've come acros

Here they are

 

[hitnrun]

The most interesting UNKNOWN CUES you've come acros

J O'neil custom

 

[manwon]

Here is a cue that I had for years and have not been able to identify. Many seem to think the cue is a Helmstetter cue, that was made by Richard in the mid-1960's before he worked worked with National Cue or later Adam.

However, I have never been able to verify any of this information, because it is impossible to my knowledge to contact Mr. Helmstetter.

The cue weighs around 19.86 oz, and it is 57 inches long. It was made from a Brunswick Titlist Blank and it was made without a bumper. The cue is still straight and hits very very solid, the odd thing about this cue is the length of the pin which is 5/16-18. The pin is not loose in any way so it was made as it appears which is very long.











Thanks Craig

 

[manwon]

Here is another photo of the cues pin:

 

[johnf_34]

- 6 point, 3 hi/3 low, no veneers. The points are almost perfectly even.
- Smooth Brown leather wrap with grooves at top and bottom
- The joint may be ivory or buckhorn, but I'm not completely sure with the aged finish that has yellowed.
- Buttcap and rings are a dark brownish/mahogany colored material, but does not look like the modern day phenolics. It seems to have had some "work"down on the end/inside of the butt cap.
- No weight bolt, bumper that was on the cue is not the original bumper.
- Age unknown, history unknown
- Cue is straight
- Brass 3/8x10 pin, 58", 15.57oz, 12.3mm tip

 

[Duane Remick]

Here is a cue that I had for years and have not been able to identify. Many seem to think the cue is a Helmstetter cue, that was made by Richard in the mid-1960's before he worked worked with National Cue or later Adam.

However, I have never been able to verify any of this information, because it is impossible to my knowledge to contact Mr. Helmstetter.

The cue weighs around 19.86 oz, and it is 57 inches long. It was made from a Brunswick Titlist Blank and it was made without a bumper. The cue is still straight and hits very very solid, the odd thing about this cue is the length of the pin which is 5/16-18. The pin is not loose in any way so it was made as it appears which is very long.

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Thanks Craig

Possibly an Early Craig Peterson ???

 

[cueaddicts]

Possibly an Early Craig Peterson ???

Possible, but I've never seen a verified old one with a piloted joint and pin like that....or a pilot that big and deep for that matter. Unfortunately, without documentation or a traceable provenance there's no way to identify many of Craig's earliest cues.

 

[jkmarshall_cues]

This cue has a 3/8-10 flat faced stainless steel joint. The rubber bumper was missing ( I was told it used to have one). It has ivory ferrules and hits great. Most of the finish was worn away before I had it refinished. The ringwork is similar to the older pre-Southwest era cues (fiber material with black check ring). The points and butt sleeve look like kingwood. It appears to be a full-spliced cue(grains line up in darts and butt sleeve). The butt is 28 5/8" in length without a bumper and each shaft is 29" not including the leather tip. One shaft is 12mm and the other is 13mm. I would guess from condition that it is at least 30+ years old or older. No markings anywhere.

Anyone have any ideas???

Thanks,


John

 

[tattoo]

Here they are

i am about 95 percent sure that top cue was made by danny spates.....

 

[jkmarshall_cues]

Manwon,

I have a couple of cues with that same SS ring on the shaft and aluminum inserts in the joint of the shaft. I was told they were early National Cues. National had some of the best cuemakers working for them before they went out on their own. IMHO

John

 

[skins]

Saw a similar cue years ago......points were nice, very similar woods and cap....it was an early DPK.....not sure on this one though.....hope you find who made it....could be a GEM......

- 6 point, 3 hi/3 low, no veneers. The points are almost perfectly even.
- Smooth Brown leather wrap with grooves at top and bottom
- The joint may be ivory or buckhorn, but I'm not completely sure with the aged finish that has yellowed.
- Buttcap and rings are a dark brownish/mahogany colored material, but does not look like the modern day phenolics. It seems to have had some "work"down on the end/inside of the butt cap.
- No weight bolt, bumper that was on the cue is not the original bumper.
- Age unknown, history unknown
- Cue is straight
- Brass 3/8x10 pin, 58", 15.57oz, 12.3mm tip

 

[shamadam]

Bump up a great thread. Lets ID some cues!

 

[ComptonCustomCues]

Here they are

I'm not for sure but that top cue looks like something derick latham would do