You think right sir.... The two railer is still the best shot even on a bar box (maybe even more so than on a 9'er).....
What do you do here?
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You think right sir.... The two railer is still the best shot even on a bar box (maybe even more so than on a 9'er).....
I don't know, I think on a bar box with the big corners, I would have to go for the flyer because the kick draw has a slightly higher chance of making the 5 ball and unless you make it or get the lucky hook on the 10, you sold out.
I would also make note that if the game is 9 ball with fast cloth and big pockets, the draw-kick becomes a slightly stronger shot because you have a better chance to shit the 5 ball in somewhere than with the 2 railer. 10 ball is call pocket, so it takes a little bit away from the percentages.
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Looks to me you've got a new drill to practice. 1,2,3 circle @ 6, 5 and 7 o'clock and slow med and hard strokes.
Practice bisecting the angle then play around with drawing off the rail with various speeds. Once you get it down on your table you can adjust to any table after a few practice shots. Just as you can with the speed control mother drill.
Personally I like Neil's draw shot except for the resulting shape on the 7.
Practice bisecting the angle then play around with drawing off the rail with various speeds. Once you get it down on your table you can adjust to any table after a few practice shots. Just as you can with the speed control mother drill.
Personally I like Neil's draw shot except for the resulting shape on the 7.
Saw.....I still got the 2 rail option with the draw shot...and I like the 'big ball'
I get going this way. Hell, I can hit it on the wrong side and and leave the
cue-ball down there.
And if I make the 5-ball, I'll be so pumped, I'll make the @#%$& 7-ball from
any where....:smile:
regards
pt..<..who loves 'what would' threads
Yeah, if you hit the draw shot bad and accidentally hit two rails before the 5, the CB is coming at a much higher angle and may scratch off of the bottom of the 5 ball. Kicking with the natural two railer theres very little chance of scratching...
If 10 pros look this situation all 10 will kick the natural 2 railer. 6-7 of them will make the ball and get shape, the other 3-4 will get safe.
Just my opinion but on the natural two railer you would have to be wayyyy off your target on the 2nd rail to get underneath it to scratch, close to a full diamond long on the bottom rail..... Kicking one rail with draw is an un-natural kick and not as easy to predict its path.
You line up any ten pros you want and there is NO WAY 6 (or 7) out of ten make this ball and get shape.
If you said 10/10 would make a good hit with the 2-railer, I'd agree with you there
I'm going with the two rail kick off the top long rail but a bit nearer the side pocket than others have shown. To heck with thinking safety - I'm shooting to make that 5 in the lower left corner! :grin:
No they wouldn't because the speed is very difficult to predict and the scratch is huge. Also, the 5 isn't likely to take the z path behind the 7. That path usually comes up short so you are looking to leave the 5 in the middle of the table which is a bad thing against a good player. Also, there is no way to pot the ball in your situation so if you don't get a pretty good safe, you are completely screwed.
The bottom line to "What would you do here?" is that you must rely on what YOU are most familiar with and what will effectively give you the best opportunity to accomplish all or at least a portion of your goal.
The great benefit to these posts, is it shows you what other people can or may do if they were in this situation and gives you additional options to ponder.
The great benefit to these posts, is it shows you what other people can or may do if they were in this situation and gives you additional options to ponder.
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Well stated.
In fact, that sounds like excellent advice for many life situations ... not just pool shots.
Although, sometimes in life (and sometimes in pool) it pays to take chances by going outside of your comfort zone.
Regards,
Dave
Hit head rail by the #3 count diamond (one diamond out from the head r/s corner pocket (sorry about my initial explanation,didn't make sense...then) with allot of speed and going three rails into the 5 an if missing catching the fourth rail (foot rail) and come behind the five, 3 railler, call the five in the lower r/h corner or if its a four railer coming behind the 5 then call the 5 in the r/h side pocket, allot of good can happen if you contact the 5 at speed. It's like a billiard shot, you can hit it on the way in, and if missed you also can hit it on the way out.
No lookie on this one before I posted, helps me learn quicker by committing and then sellin' out
No lookie on this one before I posted, helps me learn quicker by committing and then sellin' out
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I think this shot and the way in which I chose to shoot it, was very much outside of my comfort zone and while I am a bit of a risk taker, I don't want to see this shot again for a very long time.
... then don't leave that position (or let your opponent give you that position) next time! :thumbup:
Regards,
Dave
I guess it depends on what you are comforatable with and what tables you play on. My choice was based on the reasonably fast 9 ft tables i play on and tried the shot 3 times after your post i only came up short once and that wasnt a speed issue the 5 was an off ceter hit and went in the cross side pocket the other 2 ended up within 6 inches of the opposite head rail with a tough cut for the out and almost imposible to stay down on that end for a good shot on the 7 without going going 2 and 1/2 table lengths and no scratches that is a fairly easy center ball hit on the 5.
So you sold out all 3 times against a pro...