How good is this shaft wood**********

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Nobody gives a rip what you and this genius Randy think. Take a picture of the grain side of the wood Leon, and take it so the color of the wood is somewhat close to what it actually is. Quit hiding behind your poor picture taking skills.

That is your problem, well one of them. You don't give a rip. Your sarcasm just shows your immaturity. I knew you couldn't resist trying to insult me at least one more time. If you just took a step back and relaxed once and awhile instead of treating people as subordinates, I think you might do a bit better.

I don't hear you refuting anything I said about your customer service skills, the lack of gpi, or the rocky mountain grain in the pictures I posted.

Go buy yourself something nice(maybe a punching bag to release your pent up anger?) with the 700.00 dollars I sent you:smile:

BTW Geof, your juvenile insults don't have an affect on me really. They make me laugh actually. Run your business how you like.....maybe into the ground...:(
 
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That is your problem, well one of them. You don't give a rip. Your sarcasm just shows your immaturity. I knew you couldn't resist trying to insult me at least one more time. If you just took a step back and relaxed once and awhile instead of treating people as subordinates, I think you might do a bit better.

I don't hear you refuting anything I said about your customer service skills, the lack of gpi, or the rocky mountain grain in the pictures I posted.

Go buy yourself something nice(maybe a punching bag to release your pent up anger?) with the 700.00 dollars I sent you:smile:

BTW Geof, your juvenile insults don't have an affect on me really. They make me laugh actually. Run your business how you like.....maybe into the ground...:(

or maybe lay off the mountain dew, red bull, full throttle, and/or 5 hour energy.

i can just sense his leg shaking while he's sitting at his computer
 
IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR NOT GOING TO REFUND OUR MONEY...GO BACK TO MY FIRST POST# 1 AND READ THIS CRAP:angry:mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
Hey Larry, why don't you take a picture of the wood that I replaced your wood with. Not a picture of what you sent back, who cares about what you sent back, you didn't have to keep that wood, it was replaced so why is that even relevant? OH, it's not ? Yeah, I thought so.

So, lets see the grain on the dowels that you received as replacements. If you have enough integrity to take pictures of the actual wood you received.

Well I thought I had wasted enough time on you junk wood. I would have posted pictures to you in a PM, if I thought you would learn something. You are to hard headed and ignorant of what quality wood is for me to waste any more time with.

Here are the pictures you asked for.

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This will be my last post on this thread. I have better things to do.

Larry
 
Hey Larry, why don't you take a picture of the wood that I replaced your wood with. Not a picture of what you sent back, who cares about what you sent back, you didn't have to keep that wood, it was replaced so why is that even relevant? OH, it's not ? Yeah, I thought so.

So, lets see the grain on the dowels that you received as replacements. If you have enough integrity to take pictures of the actual wood you received.

Maybe the point "" They should have never Had to be sent back " Send good stuff the 1st time . I have never had to send a shaft back to my supplyer . Jim
 
Nobody gives a rip what you and this genius Randy think. Take a picture of the grain side of the wood Leon, and take it so the color of the wood is somewhat close to what it actually is. Quit hiding behind your poor picture taking skills.

You know who gives a rip? I DO! If you are going to treat these known and respected men this way, how will you treat a noob like me? Im glad i never sent you any money. Good luck with your wood, and your steel beds that still havent been made. Seriously, how the hell are you going to come on AZ and act like you own this shit? I dont even have anything at stake here, and you got me pissed off just by the way you are behaving. Grow up, take responsibility, make things right and learn for YOUR mistakes.

Joe
 
That is your problem, well one of them. You don't give a rip. Your sarcasm just shows your immaturity. I knew you couldn't resist trying to insult me at least one more time. If you just took a step back and relaxed once and awhile instead of treating people as subordinates, I think you might do a bit better.

I don't hear you refuting anything I said about your customer service skills, the lack of gpi, or the rocky mountain grain in the pictures I posted.

Go buy yourself something nice(maybe a punching bag to release your pent up anger?) with the 700.00 dollars I sent you:smile:

NO Randy, I don't reply to anything you say because it's not hard for me or anyone else to see how FULL OF SH$&T you are. I seriously question whether you can even help yourself or not, go take some more "Pain Pills" and let us know when you wake up from the stooper ?

You have little or no integrity and you're of no significance to me whatsoever, so that is why I don't reply to you! I told you on no less than 15 different PM's and text messages and emails that I would have NO PROBLEM replacing any wood that you are not happy with. Yet, here you are playing games like a 5 year old on your computer because you have nothing better to do with your time.

You told me that yourself, the only reason you are on here injecting your opinion into places where it's not asked for, or needed is because your neck hurts, and you're just waiting for your surgery. So, that gives you the right to smear someones good name for what reason ? Anyone can look at your post and see that you have no ability to mind your own business, you think that because someone writes on this site, that gives you the right to put your 2 cents in when NOBODY CARES what you think, say or do.

And you're damn right I get frustrated telling the same person (YOU) the same thing no less than 15 times. I would think you would get it through your thick head that my answer is NOT going to change after I answer a question once! That's integrity, I know you don't understand anything about that, so don't think you need to remark on it. If you had any integrity you would have called or emailed telling me you weren't happy with the wood and stuck whatever pieces back in the mail and I would replaced them. Simple as that.. I shipped the order in question to you on September 13th. Today is October 10th. So, why have you never sent the pieces of wood back to me Randy ? Why after the first 15 PM's and emails did you not just send them back and I would have made it up to you, as I have done for every person that has not been happy with what they received from me.

Anyone that has returned wood to me, I have sent them EXTRA pieces or EXTRA something to make up for the shipping cost they had to pay sending the shafts back to me.

Larry received a box of 16 shaft blanks back. I know he didn't pay more than 12 bucks to ship 12 blanks back Parcel Post, so he got 4 free shaft blanks when they were returned to him. Yet, he can't take a picture of the wood he received, only the wood he returned.

Leon Sly received a box of 25 blanks back, he returned 24 PERFECTLY GOOD shaft blanks. I have sent out several of the shaft blanks he returned to other customers in their orders and asked if they could find any problems with the shafts, NOT ONE PERSON COULD FIND A PROBLEM! NOT ONE! Tell me how that's possible..

Then we have you, you piss and moan and cry and ask the same RIDICULOUS question 15 or 20 times, and the answer NEVER CHANGES, yet you still think its necessary to ask a few or 10 times more.. It's ridiculous, your so FULL OF CRAP it's not even funny. If you ask for something, but you don't return the shafts for replacements, HOW IS THAT MY PROBLEM ? IT'S NOT..

It's not a secret that some wood got out of my shop that should not have, the problem has been solved and that problem will NOT happen again.

So, excuse me for not even caring what you or any of these other guys say on here. You want to act like jackasses and not decent business people, that's your choice! Not my problem!

The Moral of the story is, if you want something from me, this is a real funny way of asking for it. BUT, now that you pull this crap, you are going to get NOTHING from me. I don't care what you do with the wood, cut it up for tooth picks, make yourself some kabob skewers, toilet plunger was said, there's a good use!

I am probably the most honest business person on here. I have no problem admitting that some things needed to change, they did, and that's that. So, you can cry and piss and moan all you want, but it's really doing nothing but letting everyone on here see your true colors!..
 
You know who gives a rip? I DO! If you are going to treat these known and respected men this way, how will you treat a noob like me? Im glad i never sent you any money. Good luck with your wood, and your steel beds that still havent been made. Seriously, how the hell are you going to come on AZ and act like you own this shit? I dont even have anything at stake here, and you got me pissed off just by the way you are behaving. Grow up, take responsibility, make things right and learn for YOUR mistakes.

Joe

Really Joe?? I treat people with as much respect as they treat me with, it's that simple. Most people on here will tell you that they have had nothing but a good experience dealing with me for anything they need.

The problem is that you shouldn't be pissed off, this DOES NOT CONCERN YOU. If anyone knew how ridiculous this really is, but I am not a slanderer and I refuse to stoop to the level that these clowns are in this post.

I took FULL RESPONSIBILITY! FULL 1000% Responsibility, so, if you don't have anything intelligent to add to this, STAY OUT OF IT. ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS..

This post is EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WEBSITE. THIS IS OF NO CONCERN TO YOU AT ALL... NOT ONE BIT, BUT HERE YOU ARE, GETTING PISSED OFF FOR ABSOLUTELY NO APPARENT REASON.

IF YOU HAD ANY SENSE.... THE BULLSHIT THESE CLOWNS ARE PULLING WOULD BE WHAT IS PISSING YOU OFF.

I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG AT ALL! PERIOD
 
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Maybe the point "" They should have never Had to be sent back " Send good stuff the 1st time . I have never had to send a shaft back to my supplyer . Jim

Oh, is that a fact ? Because I can tell you that all I have heard is complaining about EVERY supplier in this business since I started selling wood on here.

I had employees helping me pack boxes until I realized that they were not as discerning as I need them to be, so now I pack all of the wood myself and I have not had a single complaint since that happened.

It was a simple problem, that was solved with a simple solution.

I mean honestly Jim, that is too hard to understand ? It would be one thing if I had bad intentions on any of this, but that's just not the case. I have stood behind everything 100% and offered acceptable solutions to everyone's problems.
 
Really Joe?? I treat people with as much respect as they treat me with, it's that simple. Most people on here will tell you that they have had nothing but a good experience dealing with me for anything they need.

The problem is that you shouldn't be pissed off, this DOES NOT CONCERN YOU. If anyone knew how ridiculous this really is, but I am not a slanderer and I refuse to stoop to the level that these clowns are in this post.

I took FULL RESPONSIBILITY! FULL 1000% Responsibility, so, if you don't have anything intelligent to add to this, STAY OUT OF IT. ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS..

This post is EXACTLY THE PROBLEM WITH THIS WEBSITE. THIS IS ON NO CONCERN TO YOU AT ALL... NOT ONE BIT, BUT HERE YOU ARE, GETTING PISSED OFF FOR ABSOLUTELY NO APPARENT REASON.

IF YOU HAD ANY SENSE THE BULLSHIT THESE CLOWNS ARE PULLING WOULD BE WHAT IS PISSING YOU OFF.

I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG AT ALL! PERIOD

Actually, it is my business. This is a PUBLIC forum, and i spend MY hard earned cash here on a regular basis. I almost bought some wood and some phenolic rod from you, but for some reason, you felt the need to argue and tell me what i needed, rather than just sell me the stuff i wanted to pay you for. I tried buy stuff from you, and you talked me right out of it. You can say all you want, but most people on here will tell you that Leon Sly is fully capable of grading shaft wood. If you dont belive that, maybe you shold take a look at some of his work. You can bash me all you want, i dont give a damn, but when you start bashing the guys that know what they are talking about, it only makes you look like a damn fool.

Joe
 
i seriously doubt you understand words like integrity, or being an honorable businessman.....Quite simply, if you did, then this thread would have never even been started....its that simple....good luck with the 2 extra pallets of coring dowels!
 
gdp, I think you will find that treating fellow users here with a bit of civility will lead to more sales.

You will also find that NOT treating them with civility will lead to a vacation from the forums.

Mike
 
I'm done with all of this ignorance

GO **** YOURSELVES!

Hey man, how bout i send you $20 so you can go get laid. Obviously anyone as high-strung as you are hasnt had any luck with the ladies in a while. Maybe a nice 15 minute interlude with a lady of the night will lighten your view on life.

Joe
 
NOW NOW Geoff!!!! You don't mean me too do you old pal? L.O.L.I send you a jar of vasoline SLICKSTER.
"country" Bob
 
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Nice Geof, yah I AM taking pain pills for a herniated disk. I AM waiting for surgery.

Do you want to get into the 10.00 a piece AA+ pieces that you quoted me? 10.00 if I buy 50. THAT was the misunderstanding that you are bringing up regarding my pills. YOUR version is that would be my price for A+ for 50....correct? Does it really make sense that you would quote me 10.00 for wood you are selling for 6.00. Anyone is free to come to their own conclusions about that.

Should we talk about how you screwed up shipping on my and Robin's order? How I tracked it down, then drove to the post office, paid for the postage due, and then sent it back out? How I never asked for anything in return? You sent me some gas money.....thanks..Oh and you took 25.00 off instead of selling me at 10.00. Then 4 days before I even get my order you come out with free shipping, shipping that cost me 57.00....do the math. I would rather you show me a little respect, not because you give a crap about me as a person, but because I spent a good amount of money with you.

You bring up my meds and my pending surgery, then talk about how I lack integrity?

Even pilled up I make more sense than you.

Now go sit in the corner.
 
I was going to stay out of it and wait for my second shipment of wood to arrive, but here goes. I ordered 16 and sent 11 back because they wouldn't even be good for coring wood. No problem he's a new supplier I thought I would give him a chance. I told him that I usually get High Grade dowels for $6.50 a piece and he got all upset with me when I wouldn't tell him who my supplier is. Went back and traced with a pencil the grain line, so he would see what I was talking about and he got upset and "wished that I wouldn't write have written one them". I'm supposed to get my replacement shaftwood and some ferrules tomorrow. No matter what the shaftwood looks like I will never deal with Geoff again. I will post pics and my honest opinion of the replacements when I get them.

Anyone who treats members of this community like he has should not be allowed to conduct business here.
 
Nice Geof, yah I AM taking pain pills for a herniated disk. I AM waiting for surgery.

Do you want to get into the 10.00 a piece AA+ pieces that you quoted me? 10.00 if I buy 50. THAT was the misunderstanding that you are bringing up regarding my pills. YOUR version is that would be my price for A+ for 50....correct? Does it really make sense that you would quote me 10.00 for wood you are selling for 6.00. Anyone is free to come to their own conclusions about that.

Should we talk about how you screwed up shipping on my and Robin's order? How I tracked it down, then drove to the post office, paid for the postage due, and then sent it back out? How I never asked for anything in return? You sent me some gas money.....thanks..Oh and you took 25.00 off instead of selling me at 10.00. Then 4 days before I even get my order you come out with free shipping, shipping that cost me 57.00....do the math. I would rather you show me a little respect, not because you give a crap about me as a person, but because I spent a good amount of money with you.

You bring up my meds and my pending surgery, then talk about how I lack integrity?

Even pilled up I make more sense than you.

Now go sit in the corner.

I would'nt worry about anything he says about you, or anyone Randy. Between this thread, and the way he's talkin to folks, It'll cost him thousands, and i'm sure he knows it. That's why he's throwing a temper tantrum:D From where i'm sittin, he may be better off figuring out how to make towel hangers:grin:
 
wow.....banned??? Thats a first....I don't think even brianna got that treatment when he deserved it....but this guy hasn't got a clue as to what good shaft wood is......I pay about 1.25 a shaft for high quality stuff.......course I have to buy in bulk and hand pick the boards and then spend time cutting it up.....but you learn a thing or two about shaft wood when you do that......
 
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