Wax on wraps

[Falcon Eddie]

I have heard that waxing a linen wrap with bee's wax is a great way to protect and shine.
Also that wood surf board wax is great for the shafts. Has anyone tried this ?

 

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I am just a Joe blow at this but I heard that wax paper rubbed fast on the wrap works well.

 

[SCCues]

I am just a Joe blow at this but I heard that wax paper rubbed fast on the wrap works well.

It does work well, but you will have to reapply it after you've played with it for a while. I've heard that putting wax on the wrap will cause it to collect chalk and dirt in the wax, but it does give a tacky feel to the wrap which I like. Some players prefer a smooth slick feel, but I like the tacky feel better.

James

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

As far as what I know about surfing, coming from the flat lands, surf board wax is sticky so your feet don't slip. I somehow don't think board wax would work on a shaft.

Wax paper or whatever wax you use on your wrap is sticky and will attract dirt. Thats about the last thing you want on your linen.

I have no idea why people keep coming up with home remedies and products
to use on their cues when there is a ton of products out there specifically made for the job.

If you want your shaft super slick for a long time. Clean it, apply shaft sealer and Cue Wax. Buff.
Regular shaft maintenance is the key to a slick shaft.

 

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I am just a Joe blow at this but I heard that wax paper rubbed fast on the wrap works well.

I saw this being done by John Madden on one of his DVDs on cue care. I hope this gives the technique an little creditability.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

The Who (Pete Townsend) used to smash his guitars on stage.
That doesn't mean everyone should do it or its good for the guitars.

 

[ronscuba]

As far as what I know about surfing, coming from the flat lands, surf board wax is sticky so your feet don't slip. I somehow don't think board wax would work on a shaft.

Wax paper or whatever wax you use on your wrap is sticky and will attract dirt. Thats about the last thing you want on your linen.

I have no idea why people keep coming up with home remedies and products
to use on their cues when there is a ton of products out there specifically made for the job.

If you want your shaft super slick for a long time. Clean it, apply shaft sealer and Cue Wax. Buff.
Regular shaft maintenance is the key to a slick shaft.

Linen wrap is too slick for me. I received my cue as a gift. I looks and plays great, but it has a black linen wrap. Wax paper rubbed on the wrap makes it less slick. I like the feel now. I found this recommendation on the board from people like me who find a linen wrap too slick. Can't tell if it is attracting dirt since it is black.

What product is specifically made to make linen wrap less slick ?

 

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The Who (Pete Townsend) used to smash his guitars on stage.
That doesn't mean everyone should do it or its good for the guitars.

Whats this about mine is bigger than yours? Grow up.

 

[Cdryden]

I'm wondering if some people are confusing starch for wax. I know that allot of cue makers/repairers with use spray starch on the linen to give it the sheen.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Skip, its got nothing to do with whos is bigger.

You suggested an idea and figured it is credible because you saw it on a DVD being done by a cue maker.

So you figure its correct. Are you a repair man, cue maker.
Have you any experience with waxing wraps or were you just spouting off?

My anology was, just because one cue maker does it, does that make it right?

Now go ask the question in the Ask the Cue Maker forum and wait for the answer.

First you claimed you had heard it, and then suggested it like you were an old hand at it, then you admitted that you saw it on a DVD.

I wasn't putting you down but you obviously took it that way.

Grow some thicker skin.

 

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Skip, its got nothing to do with whos is bigger.

You suggested an idea and figured it is credible because you saw it on a DVD being done by a cue maker.

So you figure its correct. Are you a repair man, cue maker.
Have you any experience with waxing wraps or were you just spouting off?

My anology was, just because one cue maker does it, does that make it right?

Now go ask the question in the Ask the Cue Maker forum and wait for the answer.

First you claimed you had heard it, and then suggested it like you were an old hand at it, then you admitted that you saw it on a DVD.

I wasn't putting you down but you obviously took it that way.

Grow some thicker skin.

I was just trying to help Falcon Eddie a registered user out with a suggestion. I guess John Madden didn't know what he was talking about. Sorry if I caused a problem.

 

[Chopdoc]

I brought this up in the cue makers forum recently and got my head bitten off for it, like I ruined something. I got several very nice PMs though, with some reasonable guidance.

It's something that I have done when a wrap became rough. I do not like the tacky feeling it gives so I burnish that out as much as possible. I have used wax papering only as a step in sort of manually pressing a wrap.

I do believe wax papering is a "low end" maneuver though and am going to avoid it in the future. I will try starch the next time.

I love linen, and hate sticky linen. It should be smooth, cool, and dry to the touch. Never felt slick linen.

 

[Falcon Eddie]

Thanks for the comments. I'm going to leave " well enough" alone. Like the old saying if something is working don't mess with it. There are a lot of good products out there made for this and I will keep using them.

 

[ronscuba]

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I love linen, and hate sticky linen. It should be smooth, cool, and dry to the touch. Never felt slick linen.

Maybe slick is not the correct term. What I was trying to describe is the linen is too smooth for my liking. I use a light grip and the linen wrap cue has a tendency to slide where the cue with no wrap does not.

I know others also have this problem with linen wrap. What I have seen suggested is no wrap, leather wrap or rubbing wax paper on the linen wrap to make is less smooth.

 

[Island Drive]

Whether you like your grip area to have ''tack'' or not is a personal preference. I've always heard in the past but could easily be wrong that, linens had wax added, and this keeps the fibers from wearing and feathering. I personally add/rub in parrafin/wax, but after twenty yrs of play with the same wrap, if I want more tac' I will use a hair dryer and bleed out the existing materials and it works fine and makes the tact come back.

 

[Chopdoc]

So, wax on linen make linen sticky and dirty. Wax on shaft make shaft clean and slick.

Weird.

Nothing on the shaft, nothing on the butt.

Different kind of wax.

 

[ArizonaPete]

I have a leather wrap on my player now but when it had linen on it, I would clean the shaft with Magic Eraser and give the shaft and butt a coat or two of Bowling Alley wax. I then used a sheet of wax paper on the linen. Perhaps it may have been a stupid thing to do, but it felt great and I enjoyed playing with it. Gee, it's not voodoo - try it and if you like it, then keep on doing it. If you don't like it, then stop doing it. Now I still wax my cue and spray a wax leather condition on the leather wrap. I'm happy with it that way regardless of what the "professionals " say about the practice.

 

[Blue Hog ridr]

Yes different wax and you burnish the shaft with leather.

You know, I wasn't trying to be a big know it all or anything. If you want to wax your wrap its ok. You won't destroy your cue. There are more ways to make the linen slicker than there are for making it tackier.

I have had wraps to clean that were so funky that I barely wanted to touch them. That was just from dirt.

If your hands sweat and obviously they will get dirty from chalk on the rails
and you will get a certain amount of chalk dust on the wrap anyway. Your wrap will eventually get dirty anyway if you don't take precautions, like washing your hands or wiping your cue. None of my wraps get dirty but others cues do.

If you want to wax the wrap its just a fact that the wrap will probably get dirtier quicker than normal, thats all.
No big deal, wax and burnish.

Try doing a search in the Ask the Cue Maker forum and you will probably get some other ideas for making the wrap tackier without using wax. I am going out for league night right away and will do a search later when I get home.

One option might be a leather or a cork wrap. I think cork would be tackier without finish yet you could probably slick it up easy enuff.
I also think they would be pretty comfy. I just am in the process of ordering a few cork wraps and will try it out on one of my cues shortly. I am looking forward to it.

I also don't think having a cork wrap would be as expensive as a leather one either. I guess depending on what type of leather you choose.

 

[dsoriano]

I saw this being done by John Madden on one of his DVDs on cue care. I hope this gives the technique an little creditability.

Ever since I saw this on his website I've done this to all of my cues. I once sent a cue to a custom maker for refinish. When I recieved it, it wasn't double pressed nor burnished. He told me to send it back and he would take care of it. Well I didn't feel like spending time and shipping, so I used perafen wax and a brown paper bag. Excellent results!!! I recommend using painters tape to protect the clear finish and rub the heck out of the wrap. You won't be disappointed.